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Post by spence on Jul 17, 2022 7:36:21 GMT -7
I wonder if some of the ‘white’ or ‘silver’ shoe buckles were actually tinned iron or white brass rather than silver… The South-Carolina GAZETTE June 13, 1761 CHARLES-TOWN "... pinchbeck white metal steel and pewter shoe and knee buckles, large and small powder flasks with springs, steel spurs whole and half hunter, twig whips, spatterdashes , neat light fowling pieces, inferior ditto, socket worms, gun hammers, cartouch boxes, belts and hangers, penknives," I guess pinchbeck would be gold colored, but it would seem white metal, steel and pewter would all look generally silver colored. I don't recall ever seeing tinned buckles mentioned. I always chuckle when I see the old boys advertise "inferior" goods. Not a lot of that happening in today's world. Spence |
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Post by RyanAK on Jul 17, 2022 7:53:26 GMT -7
“I’ll take one inferior fowling piece, half hunter spurs and seventeen twig whips.”
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Post by artificer on Jul 17, 2022 8:53:30 GMT -7
D shaped buckles were often used on saddles in the period, so yeah, one big enough could have served for a waist belt as well. Gus |
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Post by artificer on Jul 17, 2022 9:19:38 GMT -7
My thoughts for a one- or two-off tinning of a buckle goes to torch and solder or tinning paste rather than setting up to actually dip. I may need to get a few reproduction buckles to give it a try. I wonder if some of the ‘white’ or ‘silver’ shoe buckles were actually tinned iron or white brass rather than silver… Tongues… I think Nijecki mentions he uses cut nails for his. Interesting idea. I don't know for certain, but I would think he uses original 19th century cut nails and not the modern cast replica ones. Not sure how well you could heat up the cast ones and if they would hammer out as needed. Gus |
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Post by artificer on Jul 17, 2022 10:09:28 GMT -7
I wonder if some of the ‘white’ or ‘silver’ shoe buckles were actually tinned iron or white brass rather than silver… Can't help much w/period shoe buckles, as they are not my forte'; other than to suggest one shouldn't show up in paste buckles or in my case, too large of plain brass buckles for an 18th century military inspection. Gus |
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Post by armando on Sept 20, 2022 3:26:27 GMT -7
How common do you find those buckles without the center bar? Are those used without the bar and held in place by friction? Was that commonly used on straps and belts and such?
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Post by ewoaf on Sept 20, 2022 6:52:19 GMT -7
Iron buckles of various types were hella common, especially for cartridge boxes, shoe and knee buckles, and other utilitarian uses. Most shoe and knee buckles usually had iron hinge shafts and tines no matter what the frame was made from. Rod stock mostly came square because of the drawing process used to make it with opposing rollers that progressively drew it out. Rounding was then usually completed by a smith with swage blocks and top hammers as needed. You can almost always find steel shoe buckles on eBay. I had a pair for a hot minute. Most were decoratively filled, polished, plated, tinned, japanned, etc. Now I only have a set of cut steel knee buckles that match a cut steel sword I just restored, both 1790s.
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Post by Keith on Sept 20, 2022 17:53:06 GMT -7
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