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Post by spence on Mar 8, 2021 14:53:13 GMT -7
Seeing the rather different "leggings" worn by Sir Edward Hales in his portrait posted by paranger, I recalled a term I encountered a long time ago and never found an explanation for. It's in this item:
"Camp at MAIDSTONE, August 11, 1756. DESERTED last Night, from the Detachment of the Virginia Regiment at this Place, the following Soldiers, …. Robert Craighead, born in Maryland, five Feet five Inches high, black Hair, had on, when he deserted, a blue Cloth Jacket, Leather Breeches, old Stocking leggins, and a Pair of old Shoes."
I wondered if those "stocking leggings" might be what Hales was wearing. Is anyone familiar with that term?
Spence
N.B. While searching for that item in my files I came across another, similar term....
The Pennsylvania Gazette
June 27, 1771
"... Tuesday, the 4th of this instant June, one new rough beaver hat, lined
with silk, one striped red and white silk jacket, one pair of black
stocking pattern breeches, one pair of white cotton stockings, stained with iron mould on one of them ..."
Stocking pattern breeches...ring anyone's chimes?
Spence
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Post by lenapej on Mar 11, 2021 11:57:19 GMT -7
I also found a reference to "stocking breeches"
June 6, 1754
The Pennsylvania Gazette
Chester, May 30, 1754.
Taken up about 5 weeks ago, and now in the common goal of
Chester, as runaways, one James Murphy, a taylor by trade,
born in Clonmel, in the county of Tipperary, in Ireland, about
22 years old, five feet nine inches high, of a brown
complexion, pock marked, small eyes, slim bodies, speaks a
little on the brogue, and talks quick: His cloathing is an old
felt hat, an old black cut wig, grey homespun cloth jacket,
with brass buttons, OLD BLACK STOCKING BREECHES, old check
linen handkerchief, no shirt, old shoes and stockings. Says he
came from London in the ship Dogger, Capt. Thomas Brown, bound
to New York, where they did put in, but landed at Hobbhole,
in Virginia; that he agreed with the Captain to work at his
trade, during the passage, for his passage. Any persons who
have any demands against the said James Murphy, are desire to
come and release him, otherwise he will be discharged, by
order of court, in 3 weeks after date, by Samuel Smith, goaler.
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Post by spence on Mar 11, 2021 17:23:48 GMT -7
Thank you, lenapej, that's an excellent and interesting find. It goes in my files.
I'm frequently surprised by the description of dress in these accounts, but never ran across one which had no shirt.
Spence
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Post by ewoaf on Jan 14, 2022 7:43:08 GMT -7
I'd think stocking breeches to be trews.
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Post by brokennock on Jan 14, 2022 14:11:51 GMT -7
I'd think stocking breeches to be trews. Which are? (Please save me from the Google search rabbit hole) |
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Post by paranger on Feb 5, 2022 11:49:39 GMT -7
A form fitting trouser part of traditional highland dress. Here's an example: #imgViewer |
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Post by lenapej on Feb 8, 2022 16:03:59 GMT -7
A form fitting trouser part of traditional highland dress. Here's an example: #imgViewer Would you happen to know the date of this painting? |
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Post by Black Hand on Feb 8, 2022 16:26:35 GMT -7
one pair of black stocking pattern breeches, Stocking pattern breeches...ring anyone's chimes? Spence Could this be describing a woven pattern rather than a style of breeches? |
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Post by paranger on Feb 8, 2022 18:09:53 GMT -7
one pair of black stocking pattern breeches, Stocking pattern breeches...ring anyone's chimes? Spence Could this be describing a woven pattern rather than a style of breeches? That makes sense to me. |
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Post by paranger on Feb 8, 2022 18:13:50 GMT -7
A form fitting trouser part of traditional highland dress. Here's an example: #imgViewer Would you happen to know the date of this painting? Unfortunately, I do not. |
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Post by lenapej on Feb 9, 2022 16:12:46 GMT -7
Paranger, no worries, I will do some digging, I'm on a jacket binge right now and this is a good image of one.
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Post by paranger on Feb 9, 2022 16:34:19 GMT -7
Paranger, no worries, I will do some digging, I'm on a jacket binge right now and this is a good image of one. My gut says this is a 19th c. image, as the double breasted short waistcoat and "diced" balmorral bonnet suggest to me. That said, highland garb often defies contemporary styles. The Proscription Act of 1746 was repealed in 1782. I would date this image after that, in any case. |
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Post by brokennock on Feb 9, 2022 18:01:17 GMT -7
Paranger, no worries, I will do some digging, I'm on a jacket binge right now and this is a good image of one. My gut says this is a 19th c. image, as the double breasted short waistcoat and "diced" balmorral bonnet suggest to me. That said, highland garb often defies contemporary styles. The Proscription Act of 1746 was repealed in 1782. I would date this image after that, in any case. Wow, that totally shows my ignorance on these things, and how far off my gut instinct and presumptions can be. I know nothing of the clothing for the place, or station in life, of theater subject. However, if asked to take a guess at what the time period is, I would have said 1600s and maybe earlier, the man's clothes would have given me hesitation, but the head covering style of the woman behind him seems very early to my eye. I am grateful to have these opportunities to be wrong and learn something. |
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Post by hawkeyes on Feb 10, 2022 3:48:45 GMT -7
Paranger, no worries, I will do some digging, I'm on a jacket binge right now and this is a good image of one. My gut says this is a 19th c. image, as the double breasted short waistcoat and "diced" balmorral bonnet suggest to me. That said, highland garb often defies contemporary styles. The Proscription Act of 1746 was repealed in 1782. I would date this image after that, in any case. Late to the party, however this was my assumption when I looked at his balmorral, which caught my eye. Interesting subject of discussion indeed. Curious if the design upon this fellas man hose would aid in determining a date range by some chance? I've never seen such a garment myself in any period paintings or text until now, very interesting for sure. |
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Post by lenapej on Feb 12, 2022 12:15:56 GMT -7
Here is the full painting. It is by David Allan, in 1780, (according to the forum I found it on, xmarksthescot.com) so you called it Paranger! Its a while after my chosen time period but an interesting painting non the less. From what I got from the above forum trews are a kind of trowser and/or stocking and breeches sewn together?   |
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