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Post by Black Hand on Aug 23, 2019 18:35:36 GMT -7
Celtic or penannular broaches are not period for our eras of interest. In the Old World, they were used before the 18-19th century and then after the cultural revolution (late 19th-20th century, don't remember exactly) there was a resurgence. When I started, these pins were everywhere and still commonly seen but not correct regardless. How do you keep you matchcoat closed at the top?  I use one of these - made from deer leg bone. Smoother than any thorn, stick or pin and more delicate than metal or wood on the weave. |
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Post by Keith on Aug 23, 2019 19:23:07 GMT -7
I use a brooch, but need is the mother of invention, or should I say devise. If I were to lose my brooch I would simply use another method of closure, the easiest to make is the pin or skewer. The fact that such an item predates the 18th century as a popular item, does not make it non kosher.  woodsrunnersdiary.blogspot.com/2012/01/ring-brooches-for-18th-century.htmlKeith. |
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Post by Sicilianhunter on Aug 23, 2019 19:51:34 GMT -7
Didn't the Highlanders use them or Scots settlers?
Not to throw gas on the fire...
Alternately, I've heard a spring style tow worm works but haven't tried it yet
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Post by spence on Aug 23, 2019 20:00:21 GMT -7
I have used a Celtic pin in the past, but I'm currently using a 5-inch honey locust thorn.  Spence |
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Post by spence on Aug 23, 2019 20:02:04 GMT -7
I'm not familiar with that one, Black Hand, what's the basis for it?
Spence
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Post by Black Hand on Aug 23, 2019 20:29:38 GMT -7
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Post by Black Hand on Aug 23, 2019 20:36:36 GMT -7
The fact that such an item predates the 18th century as a popular item, does not make it non kosher. I agree. But much like a neck-stock and jackware, the penannular pins fell out of fashion for some time until being re-introduced. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_brooch for some information, though I need to research the topic in greater detail when I have more time. |
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Post by spence on Aug 23, 2019 21:38:59 GMT -7
Are you speaking only of the pin on the right in the photo? I at first glance assumed you were using all the items....
Spence
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Post by spence on Aug 23, 2019 22:23:36 GMT -7
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Post by straekat on Aug 24, 2019 4:02:45 GMT -7
If I'm using a blanket draped around the shoulders, I prefer not making holes in the material. Modern fabrics are not as tightly woven or fulled as period ones often were. An unbound hole could get larger than you planned on. My preferred method of holding two pieces together is by using a thread button in conjunction with a sewn on thread loop. No holes means no fraying or having them enlarge and tear out. An even simpler method is sew two pieces of cordage about two feet apart onto the edges of the cloth, and they can tied together similar to shoe-lacing. Both of these were simpler period methods to close an opening, and do not require an extra item that can you may not be able to locate in the dark.
The question here is about how to pin it closed. IMO, if you're going to make a hole, add a small piece of re-enforcing material, sew it in the spot where the thorn/pin normally goes through, and sew a thread bound hole for both ends.
Coat hangers are easy to get, and I've seen very old ones made from brass instead of soft steel wire. A length of coat hanger wire could be turned into a very effective and easy to replace if lost, pin. Turn one end over, flatten it or mushroom the head, and taper the other end. Soft steel wire is rust prone and applying something to prevent rust might be something you might think about. Brass was used during the 18th century for pins, although they tended to be a couple of inches long, not finger-length or longer.
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Post by Black Hand on Aug 24, 2019 6:16:10 GMT -7
Excellent - Thanks Spence! |
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Post by Black Hand on Aug 24, 2019 6:23:11 GMT -7
Are you speaking only of the pin on the right in the photo? I at first glance assumed you were using all the items.... Spence I use them all - the ones with the added ties are used primarily on my sleeping blankets. I can lace the pin through the weave and then wrap the tail around the pin ends in a circle or figure-8 for extra security. |
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Post by brokennock on Aug 24, 2019 6:36:59 GMT -7
Are you speaking only of the pin on the right in the photo? I at first glance assumed you were using all the items.... Spence I use them all - the ones with the added ties are used primarily on my sleeping blankets. I can lace the pin through the weave and then wrap the tail around the pin ends in a circle or figure-8 for extra security. So basically the tail acts like the circle of metal on the so called "blanket pin" broach? |
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Post by Black Hand on Aug 24, 2019 6:59:39 GMT -7
In a manner of speaking - yes.
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Post by Sicilianhunter on Aug 24, 2019 8:10:44 GMT -7
EXCELLENT resource Spence!! Thanks again!! |
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