Keith
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Post by Keith on Jan 28, 2020 22:10:38 GMT -7
I'm thinking the "shot belts," are what we call, or similar to what we call, "shot snakes," and hold loose shot for bird and small game shooting. Maybe worn differently? "Shaving powder," could be an "after shave," type product as you opined. Or, much like "tooth powder," could be like a powdered shaving cream/soap. Add some water, whip it with the brush, apply, and shave. Have styptic handy. Great idea for a post Spence. Maybe we should start a forum glossary of period words and terms. I don't have anything to document this to our period, but I wonder if "shaving powder" was actually "shaving soap powder" that was sold well into the first couple of decades in the 20th century? I well remember my Grandfather, a WWI era soldier, talking about shaving powder. Gus Perhaps this will help Gentlemen. More information & images here: woodsrunnersdiary.blogspot.com/2020/01/all-about-soap-shaving-in-18th-century.htmlKeith.
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Post by spence on Jan 28, 2020 22:46:37 GMT -7
Dead center, Keith. Thanks.
Spence
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Post by spence on Jan 29, 2020 8:10:01 GMT -7
I'm thinking the "shot belts," are what we call, or similar to what we call, "shot snakes," and hold loose shot for bird and small game shooting. Maybe worn differently? "Shaving powder," could be an "after shave," type product as you opined. Or, much like "tooth powder," could be like a powdered shaving cream/soap. Add some water, whip it with the brush, apply, and shave. Have styptic handy. You may be right about the "shot belts", Dave, good idea. The term 'belt' was used in different ways in the period, for shoulder straps and woven sashes, for instance, so using it for a snake would be possible. I've been looking for a couple of references I have which I thought might support your idea, found them this morning, but they are not as I remembered and are too late, one is civil war era. Also, they actually used the term snake, as in 'Snake Shot-Pouches with Chargers' in 1773. So, I don't know. I was doubtful about the shaving powder being powdered soap, but you proved me wrong and nailed it. Good one. Spence
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Post by spence on Jan 29, 2020 8:29:16 GMT -7
A couple more terms...
THE SOUTH CAROLINA and AMERICAN GENERAL GAZETTE September 18, 1769 "....Fifty stands of ARMS, with Bayonets; silver plated Tankards, new-fashioned Bottle-stands, Gun-chargers , very useful in Deer-hunting; Gun Rings, which prevent Negroes from making Use of their Master's Fire-arms;"
I think I know what gun chargers are, but why would they be specifically "useful in Deer-hunting" more than anything else?
The Gun Rings obviously are a kind of ignition lock, but how do they work? Anyone have any info on that?
Spence
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Post by Black Hand on Jan 29, 2020 12:27:12 GMT -7
I'm curious what a bottle-stand is?
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Post by brokennock on Jan 29, 2020 13:03:15 GMT -7
A couple more terms... THE SOUTH CAROLINA and AMERICAN GENERAL GAZETTE September 18, 1769 "....Fifty stands of ARMS, with Bayonets; silver plated Tankards, new-fashioned Bottle-stands, Gun-chargers , very useful in Deer-hunting; Gun Rings, which prevent Negroes from making Use of their Master's Fire-arms;" I think I know what gun chargers are, but why would they be specifically "useful in Deer-hunting" more than anything else? The Gun Rings obviously are a kind of ignition lock, but how do they work? Anyone have any info on that? Spence I'm thinking the "very useful in deer hunting," is just marketing to a known customer base. We see it all the time in advertising. Not sure how the gun rings work. Must be something installed to lock the gun to a permanent object.
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Post by brokennock on Jan 29, 2020 13:05:25 GMT -7
I'm curious what a bottle-stand is? Wine rack?
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Post by artificer on Jan 30, 2020 9:12:24 GMT -7
. Not sure how the gun rings work. Must be something installed to lock the gun to a permanent object. I'm wondering if they were meant to be used with a chain and lock, to lock it to a wall or cabinet or something like that? Of course if the gun ring locked the Steel (Frizzen) down tight on an empty pan, that would keep the gun from being used. However, if someone could get at an open touch hole, even if the Cock were locked backwards and or the frizzen locked forward, they could still use a gun something like a match lock. Gus
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coot
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Post by coot on Jan 30, 2020 11:11:15 GMT -7
I'm curious what a bottle-stand is? There are several 18th c "bottle stands" currently being offered by antique dealers in England. Pricey upscale items, they are a small elegant piece of freestanding dining room furniture. Mahogany was popular & the illustrations that I have seen show them on legs (with or without castors) & holding 2-4 bottles of wine which would be open to serve at mealtime.
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Joe
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Post by Joe on Jan 30, 2020 11:29:23 GMT -7
Shot belt
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ewoaf
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Post by ewoaf on Feb 13, 2020 11:56:51 GMT -7
ivory scratchers are like little carved hands on the end of wooden sticks, resembling a back scratcher but more commonly used under a wig.
Shaving powder is powdered soap, used to lather up.
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Joe
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Post by Joe on Feb 25, 2020 21:04:52 GMT -7
I think I saw those used in a movie once, can't remember which movie though.
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