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Post by spence on Mar 14, 2021 17:59:54 GMT -7
I learned a new word today. It's German, and expresses a feeling or emotion many members will find familiar.
waldeinsamkeit: the enlightened, sublime feeling that can come from being alone in the woods. Pronounced valt-ein-zam-kite, equal emphasis on all syllables.
I've understood the meaning for most of my life, just never had a really good word for it. No longer.
Spence
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Post by Sicilianhunter on Mar 15, 2021 4:20:10 GMT -7
Spence,
I grock your sentiment expressed in that word!!
It gave me an idea of expanding on the theme.
What about an 18th century word of the day to expand our 18th century vocabulary to assist in journal entries and PC correspondence ?
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Post by brokennock on Mar 15, 2021 7:49:46 GMT -7
I learned a new word today. It's German, and expresses a feeling or emotion many members will find familiar. waldeinsamkeit: the enlightened, sublime feeling that can come from being alone in the woods. Pronounced valt-ein-zam-kite, equal emphasis on all syllables. I've understood the meaning for most of my life, just never had a really good word for it. No longer. Spence Thank you for this Spence. I completely relate to the notion that I having always felt this way with no word for it. How did you come across this word? |
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Post by spence on Mar 15, 2021 8:01:22 GMT -7
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Post by Black Hand on Mar 15, 2021 16:57:50 GMT -7
I found 25... www.mentalfloss.com/25 Great Insults From 18th Century British Slang BY KIRSTIN FAWCETT FEBRUARY 1, 2018 Francis Grose WIKIMEDIA COMMONS// PUBLIC DOMAIN The great irony of "The Star-Spangled Banner." For history buffs with a personal score to settle, "You jerk" just doesn't have the same ring as "You unlicked cub," an insult from Georgian England. And there's more where that came from if you browse through English lexicographer Francis Grose's A Classical Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue, first published in 1785 and recently spotted by the Public Domain Review. The anthology is filled with slang words and terms of the kind dictionary scribe Samuel Johnson had previously deemed unfit for his influential A Dictionary of the English Language (1755). Below are some of the tome's most hilarious, vivid, and archaic insults, arranged in alphabetical order for your put-down pleasure. (And if you need more inspiration, here's some Victorian slang for good measure.) 1. ADDLE PATE "An inconsiderate foolish fellow." 2. BEARD SPLITTER “A man much given to wenching,” or consorting with prostitutes. 3. A BLOWSE, OR BLOWSABELLA An unkempt woman. "A woman whose hair is dishevelled, and hanging about her face; a slattern." 4. BLUNDERBUSS “A stupid, blundering fellow.” 5. BOB TAIL “A lewd woman, or one that plays with her tail; also an impotent man, or an eunich.” 6. BULL CALF "A great hulkey or clumsy fellow." 7. CORNY-FACED "A very red pimpled face." 8. DEATH'S HEAD UPON A MOP-STICK “A poor, miserable, emaciated fellow." 9. DUKE OF LIMBS “A tall, awkward, ill-made fellow.” 10. FUSSOCK "A lazy fat woman … a frowzy old woman." 11. GOLLUMPUS "A large, clumsy fellow." 12. GUNDIGUTS "A fat, pursy fellow." 13. HANG IN CHAINS "A vile, desperate fellow.” 14. HEDGE WHORE An itinerant prostitute, "who bilks the bagnios and bawdy houses, by disposing of her favours on the way side, under a hedge; a low beggarly prostitute.” 15. JACKANAPES "An ape; a pert, ugly, little fellow." 16. JUST-ASS "A punning appellation for a justice," or a punny name for a judge. 17. LOBCOCK “A large relaxed penis, also a dull inanimate fellow.” 18. PUFF GUTS "A fat man." 19. SCRUB "A low mean fellow, employed in all sorts of dirty work." 20. SHABBAROON "An ill-dressed shabby fellow; also a mean-spirited person." 21. SHAG-BAG "A poor sneaking fellow, a man of no spirit." 22. SQUIRE OF ALSATIA "A weak profligate spendthrift." 23. TATTERDEMALLION “A ragged fellow, whose clothes hang all in tatters.” 24. THINGUMBOB "A vulgar address or nomination to any person whose name is unknown ... Thingum-bobs, testicles." 25. UNLICKED CUB “A rude uncouth young fellow.” |
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Post by spence on Mar 15, 2021 17:56:59 GMT -7
More Grose:
A Classical Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue, Francis Grose, 1785
PIT, to lay pit and boxes into one, an operation in midwifery, whereby the division between the anus and vagina is cut through and demolished;
SMOUCH, dried leaves of the ash tree, used by the smugglers for adulterating the black, or bohea teas.
SLUG, a piece of lead of any shape, to be fired from a blunderbuss ;
BLUE PLUMS, a bullet; surfeited with a blue plumb, wounded with a bullet ; a sortment of George R — 's blue plumbs, a volley of ball, shot from soldiers' firelocks.
BROWN BESS, a soldier's firelock. To hug brown bess ; to carry a firelock, or serve as a private soldier.
BROGUE, a particular kind of shoe without a heel, worn in Ireland, and figuratively used to signify the Irish accent.
BUBBLE AND SQUEAK, beef and cabbage fried together. It is so called from its bubbling up and squeaking whilst over the fire.
BUCKET ; to kick the bucket ; to die.
TO BUG, a cant word among journeymen hatters, signifying the exchanging some of the dearest materials of which a hat is made for others of less value. Hats are composed of the furs and wools of diverse animals, among which is a small portion of bever's fur. Bugging is stealing the beaver, and substituting in lieu thereof an equal weight of some cheaper ingredient. Bailiffs who take money to postpone or refrain the serving of a writ, are said to bug the writ.
BUM FODDER, soft paper for the necessary house or torchecul.
BUMPER, a full glass, in all likelihood from its convexity or bump at the top ; some derive it from a full glass for merly drank to the health of the pope, a la bon pere.
TUP RUNNING, a rural sport practised at wakes and fairs in Derbyshire, a ram whose tail is well soaped and greased is turned out to the multitude, any one that can take him by the tail and hold him fast is to have him for his own.
SLUG A BED, a drone, one that cannot rise in the morning.
SLUSH, greasy dish water, or the skimmings of a pot where fat meat has been boiled.
SNAPPERS, pistols.
BARKING IRONS, pistols, from their explosion resembling the bow-wow or barking of a dog (Irish).
BULL DOGS, pistols,
POPS, pistols ; pop shop, a pawnbroker's shop ; to pop, to pawn, also to shoot ; I popt my tatler, I pawned my watch ; I popt the cull, I shot the man.
LOGGERHEAD, a blockhead, or stupid fellow ; we three logger heads be, a sentence frequently written under two heads, the reader by repeating them makes himself the third ; a logger head, is also a double headed, or bar shot of iron.
RANTALLION, one whose scrotum is so relaxed as to be longer than his penis, i. e. whose shot pouch is longer than the barrel of his piece.
Spence
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Post by Sicilianhunter on Mar 16, 2021 4:08:39 GMT -7
WOW!!! that's quite a repertoire of insults!!
I LOVE IT
So far I have decided to use: Tatterdemallion and Rantallion at my upcoming event...especially to taunt those moving too slowly ahead of me on the trail walk!! LOL
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Post by Sicilianhunter on Mar 16, 2021 4:20:05 GMT -7
Sicilianhunter, that's an interesting idea. I doubt it would work, though. We don't average a word a day on the forum.  Spence, You are right on that!! Maybe "Word of the Day" should looked at as more of term rather than a deadline for this idea. Both Black Hand and You were able to come up with a plethora of words/insults in a heartbeat!!! All I could come up with on short notice was that "Indians" was spelt "Indeans" in some texts I have found. I feel that pales in comparison to : "14. HEDGE WHORE"... |
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Post by spence on Mar 16, 2021 6:30:47 GMT -7
It frequently surprises me how many of the words from the period are still in use today with essentially the same meanings. Different words will be familiar to different people, of course, and just from these two short lists I find these which I have used or heard used.
Addlepated, jackanapes, scrub, thingumabob, slug, brogue, bubble and squeak, kick the bucket, bumper, slug abed, slush.
I've always been glad the British don't speak English, whatever it is they do speak is fascinating.
I have an 1811 edition of Grose's book, "expanded by a member of the Whip Club". and it's a fun read.
Spence
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Post by Black Hand on Mar 16, 2021 17:10:44 GMT -7
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Post by Keith on Mar 16, 2021 17:17:10 GMT -7
My favourite which I get to use quite a lot when it comes to posting about our government, "Bung Hole". This is a 17th century term meaning the lowest of the low.
Keith.
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Post by Black Hand on Mar 16, 2021 17:41:42 GMT -7
My favourite which I get to use quite a lot when it comes to posting about our government, "Bung Hole". This is a 17th century term meaning the lowest of the low. Keith. Could be said about any government. Doesn't matter who is in power, all that changes is the color of their ties. |
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Post by Sicilianhunter on Mar 17, 2021 4:21:07 GMT -7
Hand,
Great resource !!
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Post by spence on Mar 17, 2021 14:00:18 GMT -7
There are many ways to get a glimpse of the lifestyle of the old ones, language being one of the most obvious and most accessible. It's not just the actual words they use, but frequently the context, the subject matter. The could be quite eloquent and show evidence of a value system we can recognize. They routinely spoke frankly about subjects we consider off limits in polite society, and that shows up in the newspapers. Reading literally thousands of items over the last many years has given me a different picture of the times and the people than most people have today. Those were in many ways harsh, ugly, cruel and brutal times. At the same time a keen sense of humor comes through. They liked poetry, and used it in playful ways even when speaking of unpleasant things. I find the picture you get by reading primary documents from the day endlessly fascinating.
The Pennsylvania Gazette
June 22, 1769
FORTY SHILLINGS Reward.
Little Britain Township, Lancaster County, June, 1769.
BETWEEN the sixth and seventh day,
MARY NOWLAND ran away;
Her age I know not, but appears
to be at least full twenty years;
The same religion with the Pope,
Short neck, scarce room to fix a rope;
Brown hair, red face, short nose, thick lips,
She's large and round from neck to hips;
Short, thick, and clumsey, in her jog,
As neat as any fatten’d hog.
Upon her tongue she wears a brogue,
And was she man, would be a rogue.
Old gown she wore of calicoe,
Would cover her down to the toe;
Her petticoat was linsey bright,
Striped up and down with blue and white.
Brown linen smock --- and by your leaves,
It had a pair of whiten’d sleeves.
'Tis thought about two months ago
She stole, of gold, a full Half Joe.
Whoever takes her up, don't fail
To lay her fast in any jail;
They will be as a friend regarded,
And, as above, shall be rewarded.
Who brings her home I will give them it,
Your humble servant, ABRAHAM EMMIT.
Spence
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Post by Black Hand on Mar 17, 2021 16:30:03 GMT -7
Slang, Euphemisms, and Terms of the 1700 and 1800s – Letter A
By Geri Walton | October 19, 2013 | 0
The following are slang, euphemisms, and terms for the letter A and are primarily taken from Francis Grose’s Classical Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue published in 1811.
ABBESS or LADY ABBESS referred to a mistress of a brothel or a woman who procured women for prostitution.
ABEL-ACKETS referred to blow on the palm of the hand with a twisted handkerchief and was a punishment among seamen who sometimes played at cards for wackets, the loser suffering as many strokes as he lost in games.
ACE OF SPADES referred to a widow and there were plenty of those in the 1700 and 1800s, such as Eliza de Fueillide, Madame Récamier, and Marie Antoinette.
ACTIVE CITIZEN referred to a louse, the type that caused so many problems for Napoleon Bonaparte’s army.
ACTEON was a cuckold.
ADAM TILER(S) was a term used to refer to a pickpocket‘s associate who received stolen goods and then absconded with them.
A man in his ALTITUDES meant the man was drunk.
An AMEN CURLER was a parish clerk.
The term AMOROUS CONGRESS was used primarily by the Georgian era upper crust when in public. It was a polite but repressed term referring to the sexual and naughty happenings that occurred behind closed doors and depicted in the sexually explicit cartoons by artists like Thomas Rowlandson.
AMUSERS were roguish thieves who carried snuff or dust in their pockets and threw this snuff or dust into the eyes of a person to distract them. After doing so, the amuser often ran away and their accomplice took pity on the unwitting victim claiming to help them, but in reality pick pocketing them.
Any pickpocket caught red-handed that was then punished by being doused under a water pump or in a horse pond was called an ANABAPTIST.
ANGLERS were pilferers and petty thieves who stole goods from unwary shop owners through the use of a stick with a hook attached.
ANGLING FOR FARTHINGS was a term used to describe prisoners who begged through an open window by lowering a cap, a box, or long string to people passing by the prison window.
An old maid was called an APE LEADER because it was said that when she died she would be leading apes to hell for having neglected to increase and multiple.
APPLE DUMPLIN’ SHOP was a term used to describe the bosom of a woman, particularly a fat and large-breasted woman.
The leader of a gang of thieves or gypsies was referred to as ARCH ROGUE or a DIMBER DAMBER UPRIGHT MAN. A woman of the same tendencies was called an ARCH DELL or ARCH DOXY.
To you and I the term ARBOR VITAE may mean tree, but, in the 1800s, it was frequently used to refer to a man’s penis.
To ARGUEFY THE TOPIC was a slang phrase used to describe a boxing match, and boxing matches were said to be “the bastardly creations of Capt. Topham.”
Rogues who in conjunction with watermen picked fights with passengers on boats and then robbed, stripped, and threw them overboard were known as ARK RUFFIANS.
A wench or a handsome girl was often referred to as a prime ARTICLE.
An AUTEM DIVER was used to describe a churchwarden or overseers of the poor, but it was also used to describe pickpockets that practiced their thievery exclusively in church.
An AUTEM MORT was either a married woman or a female beggar with several children hired to excite and elicit charitable donations.
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