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Post by waarp8nt on Apr 14, 2019 15:11:32 GMT -7
I decided to try my hand at beer making, more specifically Ginger Beer. Using a common source of information that alleges "their recipe" comes from a 1737 Molasses Beer & a 1811 Ginger Beer combo that not only has good color, it taste wonderful too. The recipe calls for the following ingredients; - Good Water - 1 gallon
- Baking Molasses - 8 oz
- Turbinado Sugar - 8 oz
- Powdered Ginger - 1 oz
- Lemon Juice - 1 lemon
- Yeast - Champagne (1/5th package)
I decided to make a double batch, so naturally I doubled all of the ingredients. Throughout the process I made every attempt to keep things sanitary by boiling utensils and scalding containers. I used a large pot, boiled the distilled water and added ingredients to the water. Once the mixture cooled to the recommended temperature, the yeast was mixed and then added to the pot. I then transferred the batch to two containers and covered them with a cloth. The recipe calls for the mixture to set for only 12 hours before bottling, however they also mention you could go longer. It was obvious the mixture was working after 12 hours, but to me...a layman, it didn't look to be doing as much as it could, so I let it set a total of 48 hours before bottling. This is where I am somewhat confused...I bottled it without filtering it and cooled it immediately as the instructions insisted upon (so the yeast would stop working). There was a fair amount of sediment, should I filter it before I serve it or simply let the sediment hang in the bottom of the bottle and serve it up in glasses?
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Post by Black Hand on Apr 14, 2019 15:15:49 GMT -7
I'd let the yeast settle and decant the non-cloudy liquid for drinking.
The full recipe with specifics would be a great resource...
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Post by Keith on Apr 14, 2019 17:02:01 GMT -7
I decided to try my hand at beer making, more specifically Ginger Beer. Using a common source of information that alleges "their recipe" comes from a 1737 Molasses Beer & a 1811 Ginger Beer combo that not only has good color, it taste wonderful too. The recipe calls for the following ingredients; - Good Water - 1 gallon
- Baking Molasses - 8 oz
- Turbinado Sugar - 8 oz
- Ginger - 1 oz
- Lemon Juice - 1 lemon
- Yeast
I decided to make a double batch, so naturally I doubled all of the ingredients. Throughout the process I made every attempt to keep things sanitary by boiling utensils and scalding containers. I used a large pot, boiled the distilled water and added ingredients to the water. Once the mixture cooled to the recommended temperature, the yeast was mixed and then added to the pot. I then transferred the batch to two containers and covered them with a cloth. The recipe calls for the mixture to set for only 12 hours before bottling, however they also mention you could go longer. It was obvious the mixture was working after 12 hours, but to me...a layman, it didn't look to be doing as much as it could, so I let it set a total of 48 hours before bottling. This is where I am somewhat confused...I bottled it without filtering it and cooled it immediately as the instructions insisted upon (so the yeast would stop working). There was a fair amount of sediment, should I filter it before I serve it or simply let the sediment hang in the bottom of the bottle and serve it up in glasses? You will probably get to use more of your product if you decanter it through a filter. I do this with ports & wines. Keith.
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Post by waarp8nt on Apr 16, 2019 17:49:25 GMT -7
You will probably get to use more of your product if you decanter it through a filter. I do this with ports & wines. Keith. I will certainly do that next time. I plan to filter it before serving this time or possibly bottling it again. Good thing is when I bought the majority of the components they were sold in amounts enough to make 5 gallons. I have enough to make another batch with corrections as needed. Filtering before bottling is a must in my opinion, but the source did not make mention of it. Also, I will need to make corrections when bottling as one bottle had a little too much air (too little ginger beer), so I will make 2.5 or 3 gallons to be certain both 1 gallon bottles are full. Black Hand, If the source video is inappropriate to post please feel free to remove it. www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfnHCdc3BgAProgress so far; I sampled it before adding the yeast and it had a strong molasses taste with a hint of ginger. I sampled it again tonight after a few days of refrigeration, the carbonation is light and yeast has taken away the strong taste of molasses while retaining the hint of ginger. Some of the local fellows and a brother from fields in North Dakota are gathering for a shoot at a friends farm this weekend. I believe I will bring the ginger beer to the shoot for some opinions on the taste. Last time I brought a box of Marsh Wheeling "old reliable" Cigars...since they are no longer made...we will see how the ginger beer holds up.
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Post by Black Hand on Apr 16, 2019 19:58:42 GMT -7
The video is fine - Jas Townsend has some good ones...
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Post by waarp8nt on Apr 22, 2019 18:58:10 GMT -7
A quick follow up on the results of the taste test; The fellows gathered for our annual "after turkey season - shoot" this weekend (Saturday) which includes shooting various styles of arms built prior to 1898 (clones too) with friends and family. Turkey season stops at 1pm here in Illinois, after a change of clothes we started preparing the food and once it was on the stick were off to the range. The range is just behind the "deer cabin" and just over 100 yards, however this year due to the winds, we decided to shoot jugs of water offhand at 60 yards. Some jugs were suspended from a timber which was across a couple of saw horses, other jugs were just set on top of the timber. Not too difficult of a task to shoot, other than the wind gusts were somewhat brutal, making partially damaged jugs somewhat difficult to hit. Full jugs were not effected by the wind and were a substantially easier to hit. After shooting, we concentrated on supper. Ribs, Turkey Breast, Fish, various potato and bean dishes. Normally we bring a side dish or two, however my wife was under the weather and I just brought along the Ginger Beer. The unopened one-gallon bottle that was full as the other gallon bottle became somewhat flat from the multiple samples taken during the week. The unopened bottle had a good smell and plenty of carbonation. Before we partook of any foods or other drinks, we decided to sample the Ginger Beer or at least some of us decided to try it. The reviews were mixed, somewhat down the middle, three liked the drink and three did not like the drink. All who tried it said the Ginger flavor was strong, those who did not like it said the ginger taste was too strong. One of those who did not like it said to cut back on the ginger and it would likely be pretty good. The flavor was consistent between the two bottles, but the carbonation was not. I believe an error was made during the fermentation stage. I separated the two-gallon batch into individual one-gallon containers right after installing the yeast. There was a noticeable difference in carbonation that could have been contributed upon by separating or the fact that I spilled some during final bottling into the one-gallon apple cider jugs. The spillage allowed for excess air to be in the second bottle in which I sampled first, while it had some carbonation, it was lacking compared to the previously unopened bottle. To cure this issue, I plan to purchase a three-gallon glass container for fermentation. By popular demand, I will reduce the amount of ginger. I knew this would be a learning experience and was happy with the results, however I believe reducing the ginger would make it better. As it sets the Ginger Beer tastes like the craft soda in the picture, happenstance would have it...one fellow had some of the craft soda in his cooler (he was one who liked the Ginger Beer). So we compared the soda vs beer, if you want to try it before you brew up a batch, I would suggest purchasing a bottle of the craft soda pictured below. If you like the ginger taste in the craft soda, chances are you will like the Ginger Beer as listed with all ingredients. If you find the craft soda too strong, you may want to consider reducing the Ginger in the Ginger Beer receipt. I will likely try brewing again this weekend by reducing the Ginger by 25 percent.
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Post by Black Hand on Apr 22, 2019 19:02:25 GMT -7
I like a spicy ginger-beer and suspect I'd enjoy your batch as-is... Keep the updates coming.
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Post by straekat on Apr 26, 2019 15:57:37 GMT -7
I like a spicy ginger-beer and suspect I'd enjoy your batch as-is... Keep the updates coming. Spicy huh? Water quality is an important consideration in making beer, wine, cider, etc. Quality can vary from one location to the next, and even if it's up or downstream and sometimes you can never quite figure out why.
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Post by Black Hand on Apr 26, 2019 16:04:51 GMT -7
Some might consider me a "chile-head" - I have yet to meet anything in my adult life that was too spicy to eat...
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Post by waarp8nt on Apr 28, 2019 20:29:04 GMT -7
I did not get around to making Ginger Beer this weekend. Allergies had me down and too many chores around the old hobby farm needed done irregardless if I was moving 1/2 speed.
Funny water was brought up and I know good water is important. I feel sterilization is important too, however just for discussion...We (dad and I) used water from our well here on the farm to make wine back in "96". It was a simple receipt and if memory serves me correctly it was a quart of fruit, a quart of sugar and enough water to fill the used 1 gallon cider jug (if too full it would overflow). I do not recall doing anything to the water other than getting it from the tap, it was unfiltered and the well is maybe 24 foot deep. No yeast added at any point. We bottled the wine in Canadian Club bottles as it was the neighbors preferred drink, unfortunate for us, but I assume good for him...his wife limited him to two bottles per month. Luckily, he kept them and supplied us with a couple of years worth bottles. We made the following wines; Pear, Grape, Cherry, Blueberry and Watermelon. Nearly all turned out well, however the watermelon...not so much, in fact it was terrible. The Pear, Cherry and Blueberry were all excellent!. Grape was average to good. We gave several bottles of Pear away as gifts to our friends as our pear trees produced wonderfully that year.
The fruit was allowed to be over ripe and we carefully bottled from the fermentation jugs (used cider jugs) to Canadian Club bottles, attempting to leave the sediment behind.
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Post by Joe on Nov 29, 2019 19:45:06 GMT -7
I decided to try my hand at beer making, more specifically Ginger Beer. Using a common source of information that alleges "their recipe" comes from a 1737 Molasses Beer & a 1811 Ginger Beer combo that not only has good color, it taste wonderful too. The recipe calls for the following ingredients; - Good Water - 1 gallon
- Baking Molasses - 8 oz
- Turbinado Sugar - 8 oz
- Powdered Ginger - 1 oz
- Lemon Juice - 1 lemon
- Yeast - Champagne (1/5th package)
I decided to make a double batch, so naturally I doubled all of the ingredients. Throughout the process I made every attempt to keep things sanitary by boiling utensils and scalding containers. I used a large pot, boiled the distilled water and added ingredients to the water. Once the mixture cooled to the recommended temperature, the yeast was mixed and then added to the pot. I then transferred the batch to two containers and covered them with a cloth. The recipe calls for the mixture to set for only 12 hours before bottling, however they also mention you could go longer. It was obvious the mixture was working after 12 hours, but to me...a layman, it didn't look to be doing as much as it could, so I let it set a total of 48 hours before bottling. This is where I am somewhat confused...I bottled it without filtering it and cooled it immediately as the instructions insisted upon (so the yeast would stop working). There was a fair amount of sediment, should I filter it before I serve it or simply let the sediment hang in the bottom of the bottle and serve it up in glasses? About a month ago I tried to make ginger beer.(alcoholic) My recipe was similar to yours except I used light brown sugar instead to turbinado, I also used a whole root of fresh ginger, and I used a cheap ale yeast.(muntons). The yeast was way outdated, 2016 or 17 but had been refrigerated. It fermented very slowly, but that could have been due to a lack of nutrients. I fermented it for a week then refrigerated it . It didn't taste very good then. I used a large 1 gallon glass beverage dispenser with a spigot to ferment in. I let is sit for another week or so and decided to dump it, because I wanted to run another experiment. Before I dumped it I sampled it again and it was pretty good, I drank about 4 small glasses before the rest went down the drain. I think another week or two and it would have been great, Except like you, I used too much ginger. Half or even 1/4 of a root would have been plenty. One more thing I did different, I dry hopped with a pinch of cascade hops I grow, When it was put in the jar before it cooled.. I say a pinch because my scale would measure the weight. it wasn't much, i just wanted some antibacterial property because I fermented it without an airlock. There wasn't that much. Looking back I wish I hadn't dumped it, but I had fun.
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