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Post by spence on Jul 16, 2022 10:49:19 GMT -7
I posted about my Jackie Brown replica flintlock pistol in another thread, with pictures, and that got me thinking about my experience with it. I got it in the spring of 1998, and it has been a favorite since. I’ve always enjoyed shooting pistols, and it was a pleasure finding out what these guns of our ancestors were all about. I’ve always thought certain old flintlock pistols have beautiful lines. I don’t think the lines of this pistol quite measure up, but I certainly can’t complain about the handiness or function. It’s a delight. Pistols are legal for hunting deer here, so I worked up an accurate round ball load and carried it on many deer hunts against possible need for a coup de grâce. I’ve never needed to use it for that. I’ve never gone after small game carrying only the pistol, but frequently have it in my belt when after squirrels with rifle or smoothbore, I worked up a good short distance, dense shot load. and have taken a couple of squirrels which wandered a bit too close when sitting in wait. The gun has been an excellent test bed. I’ve developed loads with various combinations of modern components, tow, cedar bark, brown paper, and with FFg and FFFg powder. Powder charges from 25 to 50 grains with both shot and ball are used, depending on the need. Having the pistol handy when on an outing involving a fire means I’ve caught a spark using the lock many, many times. As an aside, I’ve done this routinely with loaded pistol and various long guns, never plug the vent, just fold the charcloth so as to block it, and have never had the gun fire. Spence NB more to follow
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Post by spence on Jul 16, 2022 10:56:49 GMT -7
A couple of shot patterns with the Jackie Brown flintlock pistol. 10 yards, tow. 12 yards, hard cards. One of the two hard cards is a bullseye. Spence
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Post by artificer on Jul 16, 2022 13:14:11 GMT -7
Spence,
My apology if you have already mentioned it somewhere else, but what is the bore size on your pistol? Oh, does it match your smoothbore long gun?
Gus
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Post by spence on Jul 16, 2022 14:19:38 GMT -7
It's 20 gauge smoothbore. I shoot .600" balls in it. The barrel is 8" long and tapers 15/16" to 3/4".
I have found that any 20-gauge load I develop for one gun works well in all of them. That certainly helps keep down the gear and supplies necessary to carry when you want both pistol and long gun.
The gun I carry most often is a flintlock 20-gauge smooth rifle, so the pistol and long gun make a nice package.
Spence
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Post by RyanAK on Jul 16, 2022 18:03:29 GMT -7
This is great. I honestly hadn’t considered a flinter pistol for hunting… I’d have to look up the PA regs. It crossed my mind as a living history prop and for fun shooting, but your obvious admiration for that pistol makes me want one.
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Post by spence on Jul 16, 2022 18:14:53 GMT -7
I've been surprised at times that short-barreled flintlock pistols don't deliver the power I expect, with both ball and shot. I think it would be very easy to wind up undergunned when using one as the primary gun for hunting. I will shoot a deer in the head up very close and personal if it was already down from a long gun, but I wouldn't want the first shot to be from my pistol.
Spence
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Post by paranger on Jul 16, 2022 18:17:17 GMT -7
This is great. I honestly hadn’t considered a flinter pistol for hunting… I’d have to look up the PA regs. It crossed my mind as a living history prop and for fun shooting, but your obvious admiration for that pistol makes me want one. Flintlock pistol hunting is legal in PA (.50 cal or larger for deer).
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Post by artificer on Jul 19, 2022 14:38:26 GMT -7
I've been surprised at times that short-barreled flintlock pistols don't deliver the power I expect, with both ball and shot. I think it would be very easy to wind up undergunned when using one as the primary gun for hunting. I will shoot a deer in the head up very close and personal if it was already down from a long gun, but I wouldn't want the first shot to be from my pistol. Spence That may well be the reason, besides cost, that they often didn't carry a pistol in the same caliber as a rifle. However, with the generally larger bore of a period smoothbore, it became a bit more likely. Gus
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Post by Richard on Jul 27, 2022 19:23:10 GMT -7
I’d have to look up the PA regs. As Paranger said, PA for deer, .50 cal flintlock or larger. Small game is confusing: "muzzloading rifles and handguns 40-caliber or less, and shotguns 10-gauge or less." I would say a smooth bore Muzzleloading pistol loaded with shot is a shotgun. But, I'm not a Game Warden. I do know that barrel length legalities do not apply to muzzleloaders; your smoothbore pistol loaded with shot is not a sawed-off shotgun. Richard/Grumpa
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