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Aug 30, 2019 18:23:42 GMT -7
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Post by johnhalf on Aug 30, 2019 18:23:42 GMT -7
Hi Folks, i made a shooting bag using a pattern from an old amm publication. It is patterned after a bag in their collection and has two thonged buttons for closure. I would like to make some wooden buttons but am unsure how a wooden button from the 1750-1800 period might look. Would a simple disk with one or two holes be correct? Thanks!! (My google search of 18th century wooden buttons was alarmingly unproductive...)
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Aug 30, 2019 20:43:47 GMT -7
Post by Sicilianhunter on Aug 30, 2019 20:43:47 GMT -7
Hi Folks, i made a shooting bag using a pattern from an old amm publication. It is patterned after a bag in their collection and has two thonged buttons for closure. I would like to make some wooden buttons but am unsure how a wooden button from the 1750-1800 period might look. Would a simple disk with one or two holes be correct? Thanks!! (My google search of 18th century wooden buttons was alarmingly unproductive...) Half, have you tried searching artwork that might turn up buttons? Bone or horn seem to have been more recorded probably because they survived longer than wood. Do you have a pic of the bag or the pattern? The Sicilian
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Aug 30, 2019 20:52:50 GMT -7
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Post by johnhalf on Aug 30, 2019 20:52:50 GMT -7
Hi Folks, i made a shooting bag using a pattern from an old amm publication. It is patterned after a bag in their collection and has two thonged buttons for closure. I would like to make some wooden buttons but am unsure how a wooden button from the 1750-1800 period might look. Would a simple disk with one or two holes be correct? Thanks!! (My google search of 18th century wooden buttons was alarmingly unproductive...) Half, have you tried searching artwork that might turn up buttons? Do you have a pic of the bag or the pattern? The Sicilian The pics i have found don’t have enough detail to differentiate bone from wood. The pattern calls out many button options including bone, cast pewter, shell, flattened horn, and wood. I have not seen to my recollection a 18th century simple wooden button except when covered with cloth.
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Post by Keith on Aug 30, 2019 22:49:36 GMT -7
Hi Folks, i made a shooting bag using a pattern from an old amm publication. It is patterned after a bag in their collection and has two thonged buttons for closure. I would like to make some wooden buttons but am unsure how a wooden button from the 1750-1800 period might look. Would a simple disk with one or two holes be correct? Thanks!! (My google search of 18th century wooden buttons was alarmingly unproductive...) One hole wooden buttons as far as I am aware, were for making cloth covered buttons & for the fitting of a center shank. To date I have no images of extant wooden buttons with more than one hole, other than wooden backing for metal buttons. More information on my blog here: woodsrunnersdiary.blogspot.com/search?q=buttonsWooden Clothing Buttons. Wood buttons were also made in colonial crafts shops and homes. During the 18th century, most wooden buttons were plain and utilitarian. In 1770, Benjamin Randolph advertised his apple, holy, and laurel buttons (Luscomb, ix). Decorated wooden buttons, which were carved, painted, and inlaid, were popular in the 19th century. trace.tennessee.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=1042&context=utk_chanhonoprojBlank/Mold: A “Blank/Mold” is a bone or wood button with either zero holes or one hole. The single hole was a product of manufacturing, when these buttons were cut with a lathe or a carpenter’s brace and bit (Hinks 1988:67). They could be used as the backs to stamped metal buttons, the supporting disc for cloth buttons, or more holes could be drilled in them to make simple, one-piece bone or wooden buttons (ibid). www.daacs.org/wp-content/uploads/buttons.pdfwoodsrunnersdiary.blogspot.com/2019/08/wooden-clothing-buttons.htmlKeith.
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Post by brokennock on Aug 31, 2019 6:11:49 GMT -7
John, I just got a nice chunk of cedar we could try to make a couple buttons out of. But, I may even have some antler buttons from when I made a few at once for bag projects. Yes, holes go the correct way through the antler. If I can dig a few up you are welcome to a couple. I also found some coconut shell buttons in the store. They look great, wonder if they were ever used? It is known that the hustle fibers were used as packing material, why not use the shell too? Anyway, I'll look around for any leftover antler buttons I might have.
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Aug 31, 2019 13:13:53 GMT -7
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Post by johnhalf on Aug 31, 2019 13:13:53 GMT -7
John, I just got a nice chunk of cedar we could try to make a couple buttons out of. But, I may even have some antler buttons from when I made a few at once for bag projects. Yes, holes go the correct way through the antler. If I can dig a few up you are welcome to a couple. I also found some coconut shell buttons in the store. They look great, wonder if they were ever used? It is known that the hustle fibers were used as packing material, why not use the shell too? Anyway, I'll look around for any leftover antler buttons I might have. Thanks sir! I will try my hand at a two hole in maple and see what happens.
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Post by Keith on Sept 1, 2019 16:25:48 GMT -7
I have seen an 18th century shot pouch with a button closure, so I added a button to my shot pouch many years ago. You only have to fall once & lose some of your shot pouch contents to teach you that a button closure is a good idea. Original shot pouch. The button appears to be of a design popular in the 17th century, having a shank instead of holes.My shot pouch using an antler button.Keith.
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Sept 2, 2019 13:50:19 GMT -7
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Post by johnhalf on Sept 2, 2019 13:50:19 GMT -7
I have seen an 18th century shot pouch with a button closure, so I added a button to my shot pouch many years ago. You only have to fall once & lose some of your shot pouch contents to teach you that a button closure is a good idea. Original shot pouch. The button appears to be of a design popular in the 17th century, having a shank instead of holes.My shot pouch using an antler button.Keith. Thanks for the pics Kieth. Your pouch is excellent. My research also shows that metal shank buttons were the cheap go to button of the time.
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