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Post by spence on Feb 11, 2020 18:54:34 GMT -7
Ten years ago on TMF a member named Gary posted pictures of what appeared to be an original shot bag marked June 17, 1777 and Saratoga NY. He was advised to seek professional help in authenticating and preserving it.
It was a very impressive and unusual bag, went against a lot of what we "know" about mid-18th-century bags. It was a double bag, sewn right side out rather than reversed and then turned, was welted throughout, had many tooled/stamped decorations, some of which were on the straps. There were brass rings, an iron powder measure, chains, both iron and brass buckles and a fair size knife sheath sewn on the strap. There was a large plain horn with it.
I never heard anything more about the bag, which surprised me. Has anyone heard of this bag? If authentic, which it certainly appeared to be, it would change what we think about bags of that period.
Spence
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Post by Sicilianhunter on Feb 12, 2020 7:21:47 GMT -7
Ten years ago on TMF a member named Gary posted pictures of what appeared to be an original shot bag marked June 17, 1777 and Saratoga NY. He was advised to seek professional help in authenticating and preserving it. It was a very impressive and unusual bag, went against a lot of what we "know" about mid-18th-century bags. It was a double bag, sewn right side out rather than reversed and then turned, was welted throughout, had many tooled/stamped decorations, some of which were on the straps. There were brass rings, an iron powder measure, chains, both iron and brass buckles and a fair size knife sheath sewn on the strap. There was a large plain horn with it. I never heard anything more about the bag, which surprised me. Has anyone heard of this bag? If authentic, which it certainly appeared to be, it would change what we think about bags of that period. Spence Spence, Did you have any pics from the post? |
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Post by spence on Feb 12, 2020 8:17:06 GMT -7
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Post by brokennock on Feb 12, 2020 14:08:15 GMT -7
You truly are one of the best Spence. Thank you.
Do you have a link to the original post? With some of the ancient threads that come back up over there, maybe this one could be resurrected.
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Post by spence on Feb 12, 2020 17:43:17 GMT -7
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Post by spence on Feb 16, 2020 17:14:49 GMT -7
No further info, huh? Not surprising.
In the fourth picture down, the one showing the powder measure attached to the ring, is there a specific name for the unusual kind of "chain" used? I've seen them several times before, like their looks, but don't know what to call them.
Spence
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Post by brokennock on Feb 16, 2020 23:23:08 GMT -7
No further info, huh? Not surprising. In the fourth picture down, the one showing the powder measure attached to the ring, is there a specific name for the unusual kind of "chain" used? I've seen them several times before, like their looks, but don't know what to call them. Spence I'm working on it. But, it doesn't look good for more or new info. I have some questions and feelers out here and there. A couple people are checking on some other sources, including one who thinks he may be able to track down the owner/original poster of the bag. We shall have to wait and see. |
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Post by Keith on Feb 17, 2020 16:13:38 GMT -7
Yes, here are a few representative ones. Spence Well done Spence in saving these images. Keith. |
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Post by artificer on Feb 17, 2020 20:44:04 GMT -7
In the fourth picture down, the one showing the powder measure attached to the ring, is there a specific name for the unusual kind of "chain" used? I've seen them several times before, like their looks, but don't know what to call them. Spence I think the term is "bar link chain." Gus |
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Post by artificer on Feb 19, 2020 6:29:25 GMT -7
P.S. Though the "Jack" Chain or "S" shaped and twisted links were more common on British Military Whisk and Prick sets, even they had some of the Bar Link Chains. It seems the Bar Link Chains were more common on American Whisk and Prick sets, as they were cheaper and easier to make,
Gus
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