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Post by brokennock on Sept 4, 2020 16:12:30 GMT -7
Here are those jag modifications,
I tried to angle the notch so their is some lead in to it coming from the counter clockwise side, so when spinning/turning the jag and patch clockwise against the breachface the patch is caught on the more squared off side and turned with the jag. Hard to explain in writing.
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Post by Sicilianhunter on Sept 5, 2020 6:51:04 GMT -7
Here are those jag modifications,
I tried to angle the notch so their is some lead in to it coming from the counter clockwise side, so when spinning/turning the jag and patch clockwise against the breachface the patch is caught on the more squared off side and turned with the jag. Hard to explain in writing.
Nock, Nice jag!! Where did you get that?
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Post by Sicilianhunter on Sept 5, 2020 6:59:34 GMT -7
Le Loup, Thanks for that info!! I checked the articles on Woodsrunner’s Diary in my search and thanks for the info you offer there!! Hawk, I have a Callahan combo ball screw/worm combo piece but I find that when I use the worm to run cleaning patches I tend to compress the cork screw of the worm because I drive it too hard into breech base try get it clean down there. Maybe I shouldn’t screw the patch into the worm... I haven’t tried running a patch with the worm still inverted on the ball screw though. For some reason it didn’t occur to me to try it that way until I looked at Le Loup’s first set of pics... You must really be pushing hard to compress the tines. If you haven't used tow to clean give it a try. Cleaning with patch and worm I find to be a pain, as in they don't work well together. With tow it will grab the worm securely and bunch together allowing you to essentially scrub the breech with good results, very efficient, basically a big q-tip that's washable and reusable. Once you use worm and tow you'll get a warm and fuzzy feeling, I promise! Hawk, I suppose I am over doing it . I have used tow but mostly in the field but my modern mind always wants to do a better job at protecting my the investment I made in my weapon. However, if I’m really to be DOING IT as the Old Boys then I guess I should only use tow for cleaning. A jag might be best suited to running a dry, then lubed patch for the final wipes of the barrel. I used a similar trick that Nock used on his but I used a hacksaw and ran shallow cuts vertically
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Post by hawkeyes on Sept 5, 2020 8:14:05 GMT -7
For what it's worth, personally feel tow does just as good, if not possibly excelling in a few areas a patch doesn't. Is it better or worse? Honestly cannot say. I've never had any negative impacts from using it.. If you clean correctly... Key word, doesn't matter what you use I feel. We all know a firelock won't tolerate laziness, even with modern concoctions. Many 18th century guns survive for us to look over and from what I've gathered people where indeed not lazy with maintaining them, your lively hood depended on it!
It's indeed a mind game... I can tell you if I thought for a minute the life of my rifles were at stake from using tow and worm you better bet your breeches I'd be doing things differently. Definitely nothing wrong with using modern implements, which is done in a home setting but honestly that's rare for me. Most of my cleaning is done in field after a hunt or shoot around fire.
Also... only lubes I use is 100% mink tallow mixed with a little beeswax, sweet oil on occasion and always on person is a tin bottle of pure neatsfoot. For longterm storage when not anticipating a shoot or hunt I'll coat bores with tow saturated in ballistol, only modern lube that touches my firelocks. Always keep that in a zip lock bag at home.
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Post by brokennock on Sept 5, 2020 8:52:34 GMT -7
[/quote]Nock, Nice jag!! Where did you get that?[/quote]
I wish I could remember probably Track of the Wolf.
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Post by brokennock on Sept 5, 2020 8:56:08 GMT -7
For the record. One of these days I do plan to get a more period 2 tine wiper and switch to tow. The ones I've seen that I really liked seemed really pricey for such a simple item. Though, I'd really like one of the wiper/ball screw combos.
The only shooting I've done with tow wadding has been with "faux tow," cut and shredded sisal rope. Will this work for cleaning also?
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Post by hawkeyes on Sept 5, 2020 11:37:22 GMT -7
For the record. One of these days I do plan to get a more period 2 tine wiper and switch to tow. The ones I've seen that I really liked seemed really pricey for such a simple item. Though, I'd really like one of the wiper/ball screw combos. The only shooting I've done with tow wadding has been with "faux tow," cut and shredded sisal rope. Will this work for cleaning also? The one I purchased from Larry Callahan saved my rear a few times pulling a ball. Definitely worth the money and something you'll be happy to have at your ready. The corkscrew ones work excellent, I have and do use one that I made often. Concerning the sisal rope I'd say no... they coat that stuff with chemicals to prevent rotting, which in turn likely will inhibit it's ability to absorb moisture and gunk. Likely would just swash the nastiness around in the bore versus adhering to it.
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Post by Sicilianhunter on Sept 5, 2020 15:00:41 GMT -7
For the record. One of these days I do plan to get a more period 2 tine wiper and switch to tow. The ones I've seen that I really liked seemed really pricey for such a simple item. Though, I'd really like one of the wiper/ball screw combos. The only shooting I've done with tow wadding has been with "faux tow," cut and shredded sisal rope. Will this work for cleaning also? The one I purchased from Larry Callahan saved my rear a few times pulling a ball. Definitely worth the money and something you'll be happy to have at your ready. The corkscrew ones work excellent, I have and do use one that I made often. Concerning the sisal rope I'd say no... they coat that stuff with chemicals to prevent rotting, which in turn likely will inhibit it's ability to absorb moisture and gunk. Likely would just swash the nastiness around in the bore versus adhering to it. Hawk, Glad you brought up the ball screw part of that Callahan combo. Unfortunately, couldn’t get the screw to dig into the ball deep enough to grab it and had to resort to a modern one that was more narrow. The Callahan seems way wider I the threads (I guess to accommodate the worm that screws onto it) and when I twisted it into the ball I was afraid I was going to snap my wiping stick twisting so hard. Any recommendations?
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Post by hawkeyes on Sept 5, 2020 17:36:18 GMT -7
The one I purchased from Larry Callahan saved my rear a few times pulling a ball. Definitely worth the money and something you'll be happy to have at your ready. The corkscrew ones work excellent, I have and do use one that I made often. Concerning the sisal rope I'd say no... they coat that stuff with chemicals to prevent rotting, which in turn likely will inhibit it's ability to absorb moisture and gunk. Likely would just swash the nastiness around in the bore versus adhering to it. Hawk, Glad you brought up the ball screw part of that Callahan combo. Unfortunately, couldn’t get the screw to dig into the ball deep enough to grab it and had to resort to a modern one that was more narrow. The Callahan seems way wider I the threads (I guess to accommodate the worm that screws onto it) and when I twisted it into the ball I was afraid I was going to snap my wiping stick twisting so hard. Any recommendations? Yes, the problem is the jamming and twisting. You shouldn't have to push and twist so hard. Being a wider screw it'll displace more lead as it sinks into the ball, which causes the ball to swell in the bore equaling one bear of a time getting it out. Your patch and ball shouldn't be popcorn fart tight. Just enough to comfortably run it home without a struggle. This coupled with about four threads of the puller will work beautifully. Also if you use spit and it dries before you pull the ball it's a pain... ask me how I know this... lol.
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