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Post by coot on Oct 6, 2020 8:15:24 GMT -7
Yeah, it's surprising to find what sounds like corduroy similar to the modern type at such an early time. I have references back to 1769 as 'corduroy'. Very similar, and also defined as a type of cloth is 'duroy', and I have references by that name back to 1731. Oxford English Dictionary defines duroy as a kind of lightweight woolen cloth used for mens' clothing, ribs or cords not mentioned. Another dictionary says duroy is an older form of corduroy. Spence Spence, So there is no accurate to tell if it was robbed or not without a tangible example Some years ago, Mrs Coot & I visited several textile museums in New England. I cannot recall the name of the museum, but one featured the history of fabric in N. America right up to the space age (you could try on a glove from a NASA spacesuit). They also had a salesman sampler from the 18th c featuring over 100 products from various English mills. There were 3-4 samples (swatches about 2" x 5") of what we today would call corduroy. |
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Post by Black Hand on Oct 6, 2020 18:29:21 GMT -7
What little I recall about Corduroy is the 18th century version was wide-wale rather than the narrow that we commonly see today. But as with many things lately, this is a fuzzy recollection at best....
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Post by Sicilianhunter on Oct 8, 2020 6:21:23 GMT -7
Spence, So there is no accurate to tell if it was robbed or not without a tangible example Some years ago, Mrs Coot & I visited several textile museums in New England. I cannot recall the name of the museum, but one featured the history of fabric in N. America right up to the space age (you could try on a glove from a NASA spacesuit). They also had a salesman sampler from the 18th c featuring over 100 products from various English mills. There were 3-4 samples (swatches about 2" x 5") of what we today would call corduroy. Coot, Were the originals made from flax? Cotton? Wool? |
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Post by coot on Oct 8, 2020 8:27:42 GMT -7
The sampler was behind glass & individual swatches were not labeled so I do not know. For what its worth, in museum storage in England, I have seen extant mens 18th c breeches made with a narrow wale corduroy fabric.
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Post by spence on Oct 8, 2020 10:05:31 GMT -7
I've read that 18th-century corduroy was a heavy woolen fabric. Today, some of it is wool, but most is cotton, apparently.
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Post by Sicilianhunter on Oct 8, 2020 10:15:24 GMT -7
I've read that 18th-century corduroy was a heavy woolen fabric. Today, some of it is wool, but most is cotton, apparently. Spence Spence, So really not worth using in reproducing clothing unless wool corduroy could be found... |
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Post by spence on Oct 8, 2020 11:50:54 GMT -7
Your choice. For me the important thing is knowing that it was wool in the day. Having a garment which was reasonably like the old stuff but not made of wool would not insult me.  Having absolutely perfect, duplicate kit is not my main interest, not the game I play, but I realize many people don't agree with that approach. Spence |
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Post by Sicilianhunter on Oct 8, 2020 14:52:31 GMT -7
Your choice. For me the important thing is knowing that it was wool in the day. Having a garment which was reasonably like the old stuff but not made of wool would not insult me. Having absolutely perfect, duplicate kit is not my main interest, not the game I play, but I realize many people don't agree with that approach. Spence Spence, I’ve learned that following the K.I.S.S. Principle limits disappointments as well as inaccuracies. |
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Post by Sicilianhunter on Oct 12, 2020 6:47:02 GMT -7
Armando,
Sorry for the hard right turn into the topic of corduroy!!
Did you try the shellac recipe on your hat yet?
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