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Post by Sicilianhunter on Feb 13, 2022 7:27:37 GMT -7
This particular tumpline started out life as a belt, I cannot lie…aw HELL we all know that’s not true!! Sicilians invented lying!!! Anyway, I tried to make a woven hemp belt on a back strap loom that I didn’t like mainly due to the fact that it didn’t offer a contrasting color. I decided to repurpose it as a tumpline after a few modifications I was content with the results although it hasn’t had any field tests. I will be using it soon but on a trek so much as a militia muster I will be attending. It’s a light weight test but will give me an idea if the design needs to be adjusted further
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Post by einsiedler on Mar 5, 2022 6:44:12 GMT -7
This particular tumpline started out life as a belt, I cannot lie…aw HELL we all know that’s not true!! Sicilians invented lying!!! Anyway, I tried to make a woven hemp belt on a back strap loom that I didn’t like mainly due to the fact that it didn’t offer a contrasting color. I decided to repurpose it as a tumpline after a few modifications I was content with the results although it hasn’t had any field tests. I will be using it soon but on a trek so much as a militia muster I will be attending. It’s a light weight test but will give me an idea if the design needs to be adjusted further Looks good! Here’s a couple of mine. Along with a couple of bags. I made that wool yarn bag for myself. But apparently the beetles and moths enjoyed it more than I had opportunity too! LOL!! Oh well. It looks “aged” now
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Post by hawkeyes on Mar 5, 2022 9:26:05 GMT -7
This particular tumpline started out life as a belt, I cannot lie…aw HELL we all know that’s not true!! Sicilians invented lying!!! Anyway, I tried to make a woven hemp belt on a back strap loom that I didn’t like mainly due to the fact that it didn’t offer a contrasting color. I decided to repurpose it as a tumpline after a few modifications I was content with the results although it hasn’t had any field tests. I will be using it soon but on a trek so much as a militia muster I will be attending. It’s a light weight test but will give me an idea if the design needs to be adjusted further Looks good! Here’s a couple of mine. Along with a couple of bags. I made that wool yarn bag for myself. But apparently the beetles and moths enjoyed it more than I had opportunity too! LOL!! Oh well. It looks “aged” now Would certainly appreciate more close up images of that tumpline. Is that piece fingerwoven? Looks very well done. I have a few twined bags going but unfinished. Well done I must say.
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Post by spence on Mar 5, 2022 9:49:07 GMT -7
Just curious, is there documentation of whites using tumplines in 18th century?
Or of tumplines woven in the NA method used by whites?
How about tumplines used by whites which are not woven in that way, but made of other materials, say rope, or leather?
Spence
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Post by paranger on Mar 5, 2022 11:28:34 GMT -7
Just curious, is there documentation of whites using tumplines in 18th century? Or of tumplines woven in the NA method used by whites? How about tumplines used by whites which are not woven in that way, but made of other materials, say rope, or leather? Spence Rogers' Rangers are well documented as using tumplines. See Loescher's History of Rogers Rangers vol. 1, pp. 57-58 for one such instance.
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Post by spence on Mar 5, 2022 12:12:10 GMT -7
I found only one searchable copy of that book online, and "tumpline" isn't on pages 56-59 as far as I can see. Not surprising, physical books and online books frequently don't match in their page layout. Can you suggest another unique word from those pages which I might search for?
Spence
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Post by paranger on Mar 5, 2022 13:55:40 GMT -7
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Post by einsiedler on Mar 5, 2022 16:23:33 GMT -7
Les Français have big problems making portage without any kind of tumpline!
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Post by spence on Mar 5, 2022 17:48:49 GMT -7
That worked, thanks. A good one for my files.
Spence
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Post by spence on Mar 5, 2022 17:58:51 GMT -7
OT warning.
In the reference paranger provided this statement was made.... "Each man was equipped with two pairs of moccasins, two pairs of footings and one pair of Indian stockings or leggings..."
Footings? Anyone familiar with that term?
Spence
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Post by brokennock on Mar 5, 2022 18:54:06 GMT -7
Maybe a shorter and warmer "sock" that just covers the foot within the moccasins for warmth?
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Post by Joe on Mar 5, 2022 19:14:50 GMT -7
Perhaps it's a footwrap instead of a sock.
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Post by Sicilianhunter on Mar 6, 2022 6:10:33 GMT -7
Einsiedler, Awesome job on the bags!! I'd have do quite a few more projects to get to that level!! My finger weaving seem to have a communication problem!!
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Post by Black Hand on Mar 6, 2022 12:54:27 GMT -7
My finger weaving seem to have a communication problem!! Your finger weaving is fine, its your tension that has some difficulty.
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Post by spence on Mar 6, 2022 14:17:39 GMT -7
Perhaps it's a footwrap instead of a sock. There is evidence that was done, and some of the Rogers Rangers campaigns were in winter. Nippes–blanket wraps “They wrap their feet with pieces of blanket, and the sides of the shoes form a half boot which prevents the snow from getting in, while their feet would freeze with European shoes, as many have unhappily proved.” Pouchot, Canada, 1750’s “Instead of stockings, they wrap the legs in pieces of blue cloth, as I have seen the Russian boors do.” [boor is apparently Russian for peasant] Peter Kalm, in Canada, Travels in North America, 1750 Spence
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