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Post by Sicilianhunter on Mar 8, 2022 6:31:34 GMT -7
My finger weaving seem to have a communication problem!! Your finger weaving is fine, its your tension that has some difficulty. I started using a netting shuttle but it was more cumbersome than just weaving a loose line. What do you recommend? |
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Post by Black Hand on Mar 8, 2022 7:27:08 GMT -7
Regardless of what you use, make certain that you pull the lines to keep the tension equal - this will help with the wide & narrow spots due to differing tension (and perhaps, stiffness of the twine). Even is the goal - not too tight or loose. It will just take some work...
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Post by hawkeyes on Mar 8, 2022 7:54:45 GMT -7
BH is right, tension is paramount for a good tight weave. I'd try and explain how I go about weaving but I'd A. End up boring everyone, and B. Fail to deliver what I'm trying to describe in words...
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Post by Joe on Mar 8, 2022 15:40:33 GMT -7
Perhaps it's a footwrap instead of a sock. There is evidence that was done, and some of the Rogers Rangers campaigns were in winter. Nippes–blanket wraps “They wrap their feet with pieces of blanket, and the sides of the shoes form a half boot which prevents the snow from getting in, while their feet would freeze with European shoes, as many have unhappily proved.” Pouchot, Canada, 1750’s “Instead of stockings, they wrap the legs in pieces of blue cloth, as I have seen the Russian boors do.” [boor is apparently Russian for peasant] Peter Kalm, in Canada, Travels in North America, 1750 Spence Supposedly footwraps were common in the Russian military up until 2019. |
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Post by Sicilianhunter on Mar 11, 2022 6:15:39 GMT -7
Regardless of what you use, make certain that you pull the lines to keep the tension equal - this will help with the wide & narrow spots due to differing tension (and perhaps, stiffness of the twine). Even is the goal - not too tight or loose. It will just take some work... Hand, That was probably the issue then because I only had a wooden dowel at the bottom. Next time I'll secure them with a weight attached the bottom dowel and try again. Thanks for the tip! |
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Post by spence on Mar 11, 2022 14:17:28 GMT -7
I asked: "How about tumplines used by whites which are not woven in that way, but made of other materials, say rope, or leather? No response to my question....does that mean no info available?" Once upon a time I wondered about it and decided to make a speculative tumpline which could have been used by non-NAs. I used it just as a test for a while, and it worked very well, no problems came up.  Spence |
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Post by paranger on Mar 11, 2022 20:05:37 GMT -7
I asked: "How about tumplines used by whites which are not woven in that way, but made of other materials, say rope, or leather? No response to my question....does that mean no info available?" Once upon a time I wondered about it and decided to make a speculative tumpline which could have been used by non-NAs. I used it just as a test for a while, and it worked very well, no problems came up. Spence I think it is quite plausible, Spence. Clearly certain Europeans used them (like Rogers Rangers). Trouble is: no detailed descriptions that I have seen (other than native ones). |
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Post by Sicilianhunter on Mar 13, 2022 5:56:12 GMT -7
Spence, Sorry, I lost your question in the sauce !! LOL I found this : A leather "Hoppess strap" 1780 Virginia: “Colonel Crockett has made application to me for an order on the Commissary of Hides for as much leather as will make each of his men a shot Pouch and a Hoppess strap. As the Tan Yard is carried on at Continental expense, I don’t think myself at liberty to do it without your Excellency’s direction, Colonel Crockett’s being a State Battalion... 21st July, 1780.” p. 185. Winchester, Virginia And Its Beginnings, 1743-1814 By Katherine Glass Greene - 2007. A tumpline of another name... ofsortsforprovincials.blogspot.com/2011/04/1-hoppis-david-hastens-tumpline.html |
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Post by spence on Mar 13, 2022 9:09:15 GMT -7
Excellent, Sicillianhunter. Thank you very much.
Spence
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Post by spence on Mar 13, 2022 11:28:32 GMT -7
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Post by Sicilianhunter on Mar 14, 2022 5:26:36 GMT -7
Spence,
Great article!
It was in Muzzleblasts not too long ago, I forgot about it until you reminded me
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