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Post by armando on Mar 18, 2022 7:58:26 GMT -7
I’m sure most of you are familiar with the Cash Hudson Bay tobacco tin with the magnifier on the lid.
Everyone who sells these claims they are based on a museum artifact.
Unfortunately any research I do to try to find this original comes up empty. Someone had told me they had it at the Museum of the Fur Trade but I do not see it on their website.
Have any of you ever seen documentation or a picture of the original?
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Post by spence on Mar 18, 2022 11:05:12 GMT -7
I haven't been able to locate that "original" either, armando, and I've looked for a long time.
For general information, burning glasses were commonly advertised for sale in the 18th century at least as early as the 1740s. And they used them for starting fires. Shipwrecked sailors marooned on an island....
The Pennsylvania Gazette
April 12, 1750
PHILADELPHIA
"But at last a Ship hove in Sight, bound to the Bay from New England; upon which, having a Burning glass, they made a Smoke, which brought the Ship's Boat to them, and took them off."
If you find any documentation please post it.
Spence
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Post by brokennock on Mar 18, 2022 16:00:25 GMT -7
.... Someone had told me they had it at the Museum of the Fur Trade but I do not see it on their website..... As an aside seeing as it was mentioned here.... Just what are the thoughts of our panel of experts regarding the accuracy and reliability of the information from the Museum Of The Fur Trade? I see a lot of people refer to then and their publication,,,, but often they are referenced by folks who's accuracy standards I find lacking and I have also seen some malign then as being disreputable regarding accurate documentation. Thoughts? |
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Post by paranger on Mar 18, 2022 16:31:04 GMT -7
.... Someone had told me they had it at the Museum of the Fur Trade but I do not see it on their website..... As an aside seeing as it was mentioned here.... Just what are the thoughts of our panel of experts regarding the accuracy and reliability of the information from the Museum Of The Fur Trade? I see a lot of people refer to then and their publication,,,, but often they are referenced by folks who's accuracy standards I find lacking and I have also seen some malign then as being disreputable regarding accurate documentation. Thoughts? I have not personally dug much into the MOFT publications. One that I own on knives I would describe as marginal in terms of quality and scholarship. I will say that in a conversation with Ken Hamilton (whose research I highly regard), he expressed a low opinion of their standards of historical accuracy and integrity based on some prior dealings with them, FWIW. |
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Post by Keith on Mar 18, 2022 18:45:56 GMT -7
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Post by spence on Mar 18, 2022 19:38:30 GMT -7
Excellent, Keith. Thank you.
Spence
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Post by Keith on Mar 18, 2022 23:31:04 GMT -7
Excellent, Keith. Thank you. Spence My pleasure my Friend. Keith. |
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Post by armando on Mar 19, 2022 5:04:42 GMT -7
What an amazing find! Thank you!
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Post by hawkeyes on Mar 19, 2022 6:38:16 GMT -7
Excellent find Keith, that is the first true representation of that item I've seen. Likely a piece purchased by a well off member of the time I'd presume.
I do have a burning glass and use it to light my pipe, works extremely well for that intent. Equally well as a fire aid when the need arises.
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Post by Keith on Mar 20, 2022 19:43:17 GMT -7
What an amazing find! Thank you! I have had this on file for some years now. Keith. |
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Post by Keith on Mar 20, 2022 19:59:16 GMT -7
Excellent find Keith, that is the first true representation of that item I've seen. Likely a piece purchased by a well off member of the time I'd presume. I do have a burning glass and use it to light my pipe, works extremely well for that intent. Equally well as a fire aid when the need arises. I made a copy of a reading glass many years ago, but I don't carry it because I carry a pair of 17th century spectacles.   Keith. |
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