RyanAK
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Post by RyanAK on Jul 6, 2022 17:38:21 GMT -7
Here we go. Just started and almost halfway done. I probably should have left this un-dyed as a piece of expedient frontier kit… alas, I couldn’t help myself. Need to figure out the end treatment for attaching the long ties. I have hemp line that I treated with pine tar. Smells like a campfire.
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Jul 6, 2022 19:38:12 GMT -7
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Post by brokennock on Jul 6, 2022 19:38:12 GMT -7
Lots of options for attaching your tie off lines. Mostly depends on three factors. Materials available, how nice you want it to look/how smoothly you want it to transition, and lastly how much time you want to put into it. The last two can wind up closely related.
I used webbing for the main part of my strap. I wanted a pretty smooth transition, but wasn't overly concerned with fancy looks, and didn't want to spend a lot of time and resources on something so utilitarian. I tea stained the webbing strap, some simple reverse twist cotton rope (didn't have any hemp line at the time), and two rectangles of scrap "buckskin." Rectangles are ever so slightly wider than the strap, can't remember how long. Simply fold the rectangles in half lengthwise over the ends of the strap leaving just enough room between the inside of the fold and the end edge of the strap for the cordage. Sew the strap and folded rectangle together I think I sewed it with the rope in place and was done. I probably whipped the rope ends before the tea treatment.
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Post by RyanAK on Jul 7, 2022 5:51:55 GMT -7
That’s straight forward. Good method. I don’t want this to be too ‘professional’ looking as I think most were made as needed and can’t find reference to any being commercially available. I don’t believe woven Indian tumplines are appropriate for my impression, so I went the leather and rope route. Should have kept this un-dyed… Hawkeyes posted this in another thread. Seems simple enough. I was considering doubling the ends back on themselves, stitching down, punching holes for the rope, and finishing the hole with a buttonhole stitch. I stumbled upon something similar from Ben Hoffman. However, he also adds a piece of brass bar in the fold, apparently to keep the leather from stretching out. This seems a little too ‘constructed’ for my impression, but I bet it works well! Also… Ben makes a Snapsack that is darn similar in shape, size and function to the one I made. His is a double layer bag rather than waxed, but otherwise pretty close.
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Jul 7, 2022 7:21:05 GMT -7
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Post by brokennock on Jul 7, 2022 7:21:05 GMT -7
If I were to do the fold over, stitch and punch holes in the fold method, I would punch two holes as far apart as the width of the strap would allow. Pass an end of the rope through each hole, pull it through so the middle of the rope is between the two holes, then fold and stitch,,,, I wouldn't bother with the button hole stitch on the leather holes. Really you could do this without even folding and stitching the strap.
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Post by Black Hand on Jul 7, 2022 7:27:10 GMT -7
hemp line...treated with pine tar. Why?
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Post by RyanAK on Jul 7, 2022 7:37:39 GMT -7
hemp line...treated with pine tar. Why? Left over from a ‘nautical’ project.
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Post by Black Hand on Jul 7, 2022 8:17:45 GMT -7
How do you keep the tar from your blanket?
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Post by spence on Jul 7, 2022 8:28:17 GMT -7
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Post by RyanAK on Jul 7, 2022 8:50:26 GMT -7
Yeah. Dry to the touch. Tar will cure. It’s not really like what most people would think of when ‘tar’ is said.
Spence… I like it. I may do another like that. Nice eye splice!
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Post by hawkeyes on Jul 7, 2022 9:01:01 GMT -7
I've dragged a dear out with mine before. Simple, effective and no need to over engineer.
In the image you see I have since re-worked mine. Did something similar to what Spence has and it's flawless.
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Post by RyanAK on Jul 7, 2022 9:19:48 GMT -7
It’s a perfect deer drag. Hopefully I’ll test it this December. Very versatile piece of kit methinks. I’ll finish this fancy one, but I’m cutting a strap to just slit and larkshead the line through it.
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Post by spence on Jul 7, 2022 10:47:12 GMT -7
Yeah. Dry to the touch. Tar will cure. It’s not really like what most people would think of when ‘tar’ is said. This isn't petroleum tar, but pine tar. In the day it was Stockholm tar, widely used in gear for sailing ships. My persona had some privateering experience in his youth, so I used tarred hemp for the button, loop and band for my round hat. Smells great. Spence
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Post by RyanAK on Jul 7, 2022 11:02:43 GMT -7
Oh, I can see you in a set of petticoat trousers. Neat back story and I love the use of tarred marline on the hat.
I was a commercial fisherman. Haven’t found a good way to incorporate the sea into my 18th century Pennsylvania persona quite yet. The German thing I’m stuck on, y’a know?
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Post by spence on Jul 7, 2022 11:43:58 GMT -7
Warning, off topic ahead... Ryan, you might be interested in this. Years ago I was into sailing, made a trip to the marvelous Mystic Seaport Museum. On that trip I met an old salt long retired from the sea, selling example knot boards to make a little money. They were pretty impressive. I bought one and have enjoyed having it around for a long time. Spence
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Post by RyanAK on Jul 7, 2022 11:49:59 GMT -7
Wonderful! I’ll be at Mystic in a few weeks. I came very close to making a career of fishing and building wooden boats. That knot board is fantastic.
I should probably build a Susquehanna River sailing bateau c.1750… hmmm….
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