Post by nwterritorywoodsman on Aug 1, 2019 15:04:12 GMT -7
Ok, not quite sure if a dog is considered camp or trail gear, but my question is(google is failing me) what would a early18th century eastern woodland native dog look like and what variety of dog would be it included in, spitz,hound, etc... I know its not so much breed, but type. Since I have that down, on the web I have found a dog called a carolina indian dog, but I'm still not quite sure exactly what it is, and if its truly NA dog or not. Other dogs that seem to be fairly old and native to north america include chawawa(spelling) type dogs, and malamutes and inuit dogs, but those are in canada and mexico. I'm interested in Mid 18th century shawnee dogs in the Ohio valley. So put it this way, what would early 18th century Shawnee dogs be like(looks, origins, cultural use) in the Ohio valley? And would they differ from native american dogs in new england(Abenaki), or the western great lakes(Ojibwa) by any considerable amount?
This might be a hard question, thats why I'm hoping one of you might know a close enough answer.
Would they be wolf like like Canada's inuit dogs, or would they resemble more of the european hounds and curs? There doesn't seem to be much about them dogs on the web.
Those are some of my questions/thoughts. But I do think I might have figured this info out.
From searching the web a little bit more, I've concluded on native dogs:
1.)Some likely reasons they got whiped out are alot like the native americans, they didn't have a resistance to european cainine diseases like cainine distemper, rabies, etc
2.)Europeans considered Native american dogs as pests and willingly killed them when they attacked native villages. Also I read that the natives dogs were food for starving europeans.
3.)Europeans didn't want native dogs to breed with purebred euro dogs beacause they considered native dogs lesser.
4.)The oldest domesticated american dog(atleast is the USA) was found in illinois around 9,900 years ago, and was said to more resemble a dingo type dog, so the arctic type dogs could/could have not come over with the native americans 15 thousand or so years ago? Correct if wrong.
5.)North American arctic dogs didn't arrive in the alaska and canadian arctic till a couple thousand years ago.
6.) They(the dogs) origionally seem to come from the siberia region, so from looking at dogs from there today, maybe---maybe 18th century woodland dogs had a spitz like appearance? Also, the natives dogs were known to pull travois, which is kinda like what the spitz type dogs are known for today. But they could have been more of a dingoish looking dog found in Illinois.
So maybe its reasonable to think to think that 18th century(eastern) indian dogs had a wolf like(spitz) appearance, or a dingo look to them. Ofcourse with genetically endemic genes from living kinda isolated from other dogs of the world and from the indians specifically breeding them.
NWT Woodsman
This might be a hard question, thats why I'm hoping one of you might know a close enough answer.
Would they be wolf like like Canada's inuit dogs, or would they resemble more of the european hounds and curs? There doesn't seem to be much about them dogs on the web.
Those are some of my questions/thoughts. But I do think I might have figured this info out.
From searching the web a little bit more, I've concluded on native dogs:
1.)Some likely reasons they got whiped out are alot like the native americans, they didn't have a resistance to european cainine diseases like cainine distemper, rabies, etc
2.)Europeans considered Native american dogs as pests and willingly killed them when they attacked native villages. Also I read that the natives dogs were food for starving europeans.
3.)Europeans didn't want native dogs to breed with purebred euro dogs beacause they considered native dogs lesser.
4.)The oldest domesticated american dog(atleast is the USA) was found in illinois around 9,900 years ago, and was said to more resemble a dingo type dog, so the arctic type dogs could/could have not come over with the native americans 15 thousand or so years ago? Correct if wrong.
5.)North American arctic dogs didn't arrive in the alaska and canadian arctic till a couple thousand years ago.
6.) They(the dogs) origionally seem to come from the siberia region, so from looking at dogs from there today, maybe---maybe 18th century woodland dogs had a spitz like appearance? Also, the natives dogs were known to pull travois, which is kinda like what the spitz type dogs are known for today. But they could have been more of a dingoish looking dog found in Illinois.
So maybe its reasonable to think to think that 18th century(eastern) indian dogs had a wolf like(spitz) appearance, or a dingo look to them. Ofcourse with genetically endemic genes from living kinda isolated from other dogs of the world and from the indians specifically breeding them.
NWT Woodsman
