Keith
Hunter
Bushfire close but safe now. Getting some good rain.
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Post by Keith on Oct 4, 2019 14:57:45 GMT -7
I thought that even if the following does not give you any ideas, you may find it of some interest. Thank you Keith, been trying to find a readable copy of the "rules of the coffee house". Can't come across a legible document. The one you just posted is the best example I've seen thus far. THE RULES AND ORDERS OF THE COFFEE HOUSE Enter, Sirs, freely, but first, if you please, Peruse our civil orders, which are these. First, gentry, tradesmen, all are welcome hither, And may without affront sit down together: Pre-eminence of place none here should mind, But take the next fit seat that he can find: Nor need any, if finer persons come, Rise up to assigne to them his room; To limit men's expence, we think not fair, But let him forfeit twelve-pence that shall swear; He that shall any quarrel here begin, Shall give each man a dish t' atone the sin; And so shall he, whose compliments extend So far to drink in coffee to his friend; Let noise of loud disputes be quite forborne, No maudlin lovers here in corners mourn, But all be brisk and talk, but not too much, On sacred things, let none presume to touch. Nor profane Scripture, nor sawcily wrong Affairs of state with an irreverent tongue: Let mirth be innocent, and each man see That all his jests without reflection be; To keep the house more quiet and from blame, We banish hence cards, dice, and every game; Nor can allow of wagers, that exceed Five shillings, which ofttimes much trouble breed; Let all that's lost or forfeited be spent In such good liquor as the house doth vent. And customers endeavour, to their powers, For to observe still, seasonable hours. Lastly, let each man what he calls for pay, And so you're welcome to come every day. Keith. scholarsbank.uoregon.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/1794/7463/Kelly_Intile.pdf
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Keith
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Bushfire close but safe now. Getting some good rain.
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Post by Keith on Oct 4, 2019 15:09:28 GMT -7
The First NEWSPAPER ADVERTISEMENT FOR COFFEE—1657 Keith.
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Post by hawkeyes on Oct 4, 2019 15:50:20 GMT -7
Thank you so much!!! You indeed are a gentleman and scholar!
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Post by spence on Oct 4, 2019 15:58:10 GMT -7
Yes, I'm sure it will be fun working it out. What period of the 18th century are you aiming for? There are reproduction 18th-century tinware coffee pots which are not exorbitant. I have no idea if a reproduction of this piece is available, but here's a neat coffee roaster designed to be used over coals. You prop the extended point on something behind the coals and rotate the gadget to stir the beans. Spence
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Post by Black Hand on Oct 4, 2019 16:12:41 GMT -7
Yes, I'm sure it will be fun working it out. What period of the 18th century are you aiming for? There are reproduction 18th-century tinware coffee pots which are not exorbitant. I have no idea if a reproduction of this piece is available, but here's a neat coffee roaster designed to be used over coals. You prop the extended point on something behind the coals and rotate the gadget to stir the beans. Spence I believe Jas Townsend has a video on roasting coffee and the tools that went with it but might have been another cooking show (A Taste of History, available on Amazon Prime).
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Post by spence on Oct 4, 2019 16:39:15 GMT -7
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Post by hawkeyes on Oct 4, 2019 17:23:15 GMT -7
That is a neat gizmo, doesn't look like it would be hard to reproduce actually. I could replicate that roaster I feel... Mainly shooting for the later part of the period 1770's and on.
I almost forgot to mention my brass "true turk" mill. I'll grind from that.
Concerning a water pot, I'd actually like to secure one of the large water cisterns from copper or tin, however haven't came across one yet and unlikely I will.
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Post by spence on Oct 4, 2019 17:36:07 GMT -7
I don't know about at a frontier fort, but I believe that in polite 18th-century society coffee cups were much smaller than the mugs we are accustomed to. Here's a neat 18th-century roaster I've had for quite a while. Spence
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Post by hawkeyes on Oct 4, 2019 18:16:31 GMT -7
I don't know about at a frontier fort, but I believe that in polite 18th-century society coffee cups were much smaller than the mugs we are accustomed to. Here's a neat 18th-century roaster I've had for quite a while. Spence That is something special right there! Can't seem to come across wonderful finds like that. I'm just very back and forth on the scotch kettle... I'd rather keep looking for an actual roaster. Closest thing I've found to a roasting kettle. I know theres a point were a line must be drawn in terms of trying to be 100% accurate as it's just not plausible I feel with the rarity of these items.
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Post by Black Hand on Oct 4, 2019 18:21:12 GMT -7
Finding a blacksmith should be easier than finding a potter. A pan such as Spence shows would not be that difficult to make.
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Post by hawkeyes on Oct 4, 2019 18:23:05 GMT -7
Finding a blacksmith should be easier than finding a potter. A pan such as Spence shows would not be that difficult to make. I've got the perfect pan that could be modified as well... not hard by any means.
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Post by spence on Oct 5, 2019 13:23:03 GMT -7
Now, that part you won't like. You should dress the part of a tavern-keeper, which would definitely mean Buckles on you shoes (and stockings, breeches, shirt & waistcoat rather than legging and a breechclout). Well, maybe not....a little late for the Hawkeyes Coffee Emporium, but I can imagine hawkeyes like this. Wm. Blane, _An Excursion through the United States and Canada, during the Years 1822-3 by an English Gentleman_ "I must here remark that in the Western States, the tavern keepers are all considerable landed proprietors; and as they have generally a great number of friends and acquaintances, are men of considerable influence. Now the militia have the privilege of choosing their own officers, and consequently the election very often falls upon the tavern keeper of the neighbourhood. Indeed I have rarely stopped at a tavern, in Kentucky, Indiana, Ohio, or Illinois, without finding that the landlord, although clothed from top to bottom in buckskin, and not remarkably clean, was at least a captain, and generally a major or colonel." Spence
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Post by Black Hand on Oct 5, 2019 13:25:02 GMT -7
I LIKE IT!!!!
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Post by hawkeyes on Oct 5, 2019 15:09:03 GMT -7
Now, that part you won't like. You should dress the part of a tavern-keeper, which would definitely mean Buckles on you shoes (and stockings, breeches, shirt & waistcoat rather than legging and a breechclout). Well, maybe not....a little late for the Hawkeyes Coffee Emporium, but I can imagine hawkeyes like this. Wm. Blane, _An Excursion through the United States and Canada, during the Years 1822-3 by an English Gentleman_ "I must here remark that in the Western States, the tavern keepers are all considerable landed proprietors; and as they have generally a great number of friends and acquaintances, are men of considerable influence. Now the militia have the privilege of choosing their own officers, and consequently the election very often falls upon the tavern keeper of the neighbourhood. Indeed I have rarely stopped at a tavern, in Kentucky, Indiana, Ohio, or Illinois, without finding that the landlord, although clothed from top to bottom in buckskin, and not remarkably clean, was at least a captain, and generally a major or colonel." Spence Now we are talking gents! By blood stained leggings are acceptable!
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Post by hawkeyes on Oct 5, 2019 15:13:45 GMT -7
Well, maybe not....a little late for the Hawkeyes Coffee Emporium, but I can imagine hawkeyes like this. Wm. Blane, _An Excursion through the United States and Canada, during the Years 1822-3 by an English Gentleman_ "I must here remark that in the Western States, the tavern keepers are all considerable landed proprietors; and as they have generally a great number of friends and acquaintances, are men of considerable influence. Now the militia have the privilege of choosing their own officers, and consequently the election very often falls upon the tavern keeper of the neighbourhood. Indeed I have rarely stopped at a tavern, in Kentucky, Indiana, Ohio, or Illinois, without finding that the landlord, although clothed from top to bottom in buckskin, and not remarkably clean, was at least a captain, and generally a major or colonel." Spence Now we are talking gents! By blood stained leggings are acceptable! Forget to mention earlier, spence you mentioned something about tavern mugs. I should have been more specific, I'm looking into some simple tin mugs instead of actual ceramic or pewter tavern mugs. I'm also on the trail of having a 18th century ceramic coffee pot reproduced for pour over along with a matching pitcher. My wife works with a potter who does it as a hobby on the side. She does beautiful work so awaiting a reply on having those two items made.
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