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Post by spence on Feb 27, 2020 23:02:09 GMT -7
One of my favorite resources is a PhD thesis done in 1982. It is full of fascinating information about the exchange of food culture with the Native Americans and adoption by the settlers. Cooking utensils, cooking methods, a great many excellent references and quotations about the subject...well, I enjoyed it immensely. My first time through it I made 14 pages of notes.The first part is about teaching methods and not of interest to me, but the last half, or so, is a jewel. Good photos of very early gear, too. Maryellen Spencer, PhD dissertation, 1982 Food in Seventeenth-Century Tidewater Virginia vtechworks.lib.vt.edu/bitstream/handle/10919/26153/LD5655.V856_1982.S772.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=ySpence |
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Post by Black Hand on Feb 28, 2020 11:23:39 GMT -7
Food and history - two of my favorite things together...
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Post by hawkeyes on Feb 28, 2020 13:03:15 GMT -7
This is exceptional, saved a copy and plan to print this for my records. Thank you for posting.
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Post by Keith on Feb 28, 2020 16:52:47 GMT -7
Unfortunately this link does not open for me, & a search for this comes up empty!
Keith.
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Post by hawkeyes on Feb 28, 2020 17:23:29 GMT -7
Unfortunately this link does not open for me, & a search for this comes up empty! Keith. Keith, it downloaded as an Adobe pdf for me, are you able to convert it? |
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Post by Sicilianhunter on Feb 28, 2020 17:24:24 GMT -7
Unfortunately this link does not open for me, & a search for this comes up empty! Keith. Keith, It took a few tries for me to open it on my phone. I would give it another go |
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Post by spence on Feb 28, 2020 17:26:58 GMT -7
Very strange, Keith. The link works for me as posted. Try this URL. If that works, find View/Open on the upper left and click it. For me that opens the same page I posted. It's PDF, I hope you can deal with that. hdl.handle.net/10919/26153Spence |
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Post by Keith on Feb 28, 2020 19:22:51 GMT -7
Thank you so much for the advice, I had already tried several times, but I just tried it again & the site worked fine  I have downloaded it. Special thanks to you Spence, very much appreciated mate, I love this stuff! Regards, Keith. |
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Post by spence on Feb 28, 2020 20:14:31 GMT -7
I hear you. I particularly wanted you to have access. I predict this one will please you. Spence |
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Post by Black Hand on Feb 29, 2020 6:17:09 GMT -7
Finally had an opportunity to download the thesis to my computer (no wifi at work) - very nice find Spence.
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Post by Black Hand on Feb 29, 2020 8:26:29 GMT -7
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Post by brokennock on Mar 1, 2020 10:52:43 GMT -7
Original link doesn't work for me either. I'll try the second one on my laptop later today.
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Post by artificer on Mar 2, 2020 15:11:48 GMT -7
Spence,
Great link, thank you.
This brings to mind a question on something that surprised me about 18th century Virginia, when I first began running across it. It seems bread and milk (probably mixed together) was the most common breakfast including up to those who were fairly affluent. Now I wonder if the bread was corn bread, rather than wheat bread?
Gus.
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Post by spence on Mar 2, 2020 20:02:52 GMT -7
I imagine it was both. Plus cornmeal mush.
Pennsylvania settler: "The breakfast is tea or coffee. Along with these are eaten long thin slices of bread roasted, soaked in milk and butter and called toast."
Draper, participant at Kings Mountain: "...we were to live on hoe cake and milk."
Moravians at Bethabara: "In the mornings we have mush with milk, or drippings, at supper mush with drippings, or pumpkins, or squashes."
Spence
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Post by artificer on Mar 5, 2020 17:09:22 GMT -7
I imagine it was both. Plus cornmeal mush. Pennsylvania settler: "The breakfast is tea or coffee. Along with these are eaten long thin slices of bread roasted, soaked in milk and butter and called toast." Draper, participant at Kings Mountain: "...we were to live on hoe cake and milk." Moravians at Bethabara: "In the mornings we have mush with milk, or drippings, at supper mush with drippings, or pumpkins, or squashes." Spence Very interesting! Never read about them having hoe cake with milk. As a kid growing up, when we got sick, Mom or Grandma would give us "Milk Toast," which was buttered toast with heated milk over it. Almost worth getting sick for that. I wonder if the practice came from finding a use for left over bread; so they toasted and buttered it and poured milk over it? Well, anyway, bread or hoe cake and milk sounds like a great period meal to eat for breakfast at living histories, etc. Gus. |
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I have downloaded it.