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Post by paranger on Apr 11, 2020 15:43:58 GMT -7
Can you show us a pic of the breakthrough? I'll add to the advice to contact Dave Persons. Sometimes it takes him a bit to respond as he stays pretty busy, but his advice will be spot on.  |
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Post by brokennock on Apr 11, 2020 17:06:22 GMT -7
So what I'm looking at is a whole from the outside of the gun breaking into the ramrod channel forward of the trigger guard but aft of the entry thimble?
Those brass plate repairs shown look so ungainly compared to size of the damage.
Is there a period way to patch from within? A wooden plug?
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Post by Black Hand on Apr 11, 2020 17:16:43 GMT -7
Nock,
This seems to be the period repair, at least on guns that were well-used. Keep in mind that a larger repair would protect the forestock from additional wear and also keep the stock from splitting in the area of thinner wood.
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Post by brokennock on Apr 11, 2020 17:30:15 GMT -7
Nock, This seems to be the period repair, at least on guns that were well-used. Keep in mind that a larger repair would protect the forestock from additional wear and also keep the stock from splitting in the area of thinner wood. Yes. I understand this. They are just so cumbersome looking compared to the gracefullness of the arms being repaired. |
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Post by Black Hand on Apr 11, 2020 17:43:46 GMT -7
We tend to view these guns as pieces of art (which many are), but to them, they were a tool. How many times have you seen a nice hatchet with a couple rusty screws banged in to hold the head tight and wire and/or duct tape holding a battered handle together....?
That's what I'm sticking to.
Much like a rawhide or brass wire repair, they have their own appeal.
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Post by paranger on Apr 11, 2020 18:30:01 GMT -7
We tend to view these guns as pieces of art (which many are), but to them, they were a tool. How many times have you seen a nice hatchet with a couple rusty screws banged in to hold the head tight and wire and/or duct tape holding a battered handle together....? That's what I'm sticking to. Much like a rawhide or brass wire repair, they have their own appeal. Yes, that is exactly what I am going for. I portray a Pennsylvania Provincial soldier bringing his old fowling piece to service on the frontier in 1756. PA offered a bounty for any recruit that brought his own firelock and/or blanket, as both were scarce early in the war. This club butt fowler was made from an obsolete King William marked (i.e., military ca.1695-1702) doglock mated to a 56" .69 cal. barrel for civilian use. It has a half century of usage under its belt in its combined iterations, so the more "honest wear" the better.  |
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Post by brokennock on Apr 11, 2020 20:05:37 GMT -7
A truly awesome impression. Looking good.
So, did the ramrod end just eventually wear through that thin area of the wood over the course of many reinsertions?
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Post by paranger on Apr 12, 2020 4:59:39 GMT -7
A truly awesome impression. Looking good. So, did the ramrod end just eventually wear through that thin area of the wood over the course of many reinsertions? Thanks for the kind words, BN. Actually it broke from the outside. That spot on the forearm got spongy at first and eventually gave way, which is exactly what I figure happened to many originals, since it is the most handled part of the gun. |
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Post by artificer on Apr 13, 2020 6:03:15 GMT -7
Pararanger,
Not sure if you know this and if you do, please ignore, but don't forget to "break" or round the corners all around the brass plate and on both the top and bottom sides. This so it doesn't scar the wood as you install it and you don't tear up your fingers from the sharp edges as you use it after it is installed.
Gus
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Post by paranger on Apr 13, 2020 6:28:17 GMT -7
Pararanger, Not sure if you know this and if you do, please ignore, but don't forget to "break" or round the corners all around the brass plate and on both the top and bottom sides. This so it doesn't scar the wood as you install it and you don't tear up your fingers from the sharp edges as you use it after it is installed. Gus Yes: excellent point, thanks! I was indeed planning to round off and sand the edges down a bit. |
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Post by paranger on Apr 18, 2020 18:02:52 GMT -7
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Post by paranger on Apr 18, 2020 18:03:49 GMT -7
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Post by paranger on Apr 18, 2020 18:05:01 GMT -7
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Post by Black Hand on Apr 18, 2020 18:05:58 GMT -7
I presume you will be using steel nails?
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Post by paranger on Apr 18, 2020 18:06:07 GMT -7
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