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Post by spence on May 6, 2020 11:36:06 GMT -7
I frequently run across descriptions of people in the 18th century which make me scratch my head and suspect very few of us are doing our re-enacting right. We strive for the lean, mean, efficient and well equipped Hollywood version far too often, I'm afraid. These two examples of what I mean don't sound like any group of re-enactors I've ever seen, either in dress or arms.
The first is from From The History of New Ipswich, New Hampshire, 1735-1914: With Genealogical Records of the Principle Families, by Charles Henry Chandler, Sarah Fiske Lee. It describes men marching from New Ipswich, NH, toward Stillwater, NY, and the battle known as Bemis Heights. It tells of Capt. Stephen Parker's company leaving for Stillwater in 1777, as related by a citizen of the town who remembered the event.
"To a man, they wore small clothes, coming down and fastening just below the knee, and long stockings with cowhide shoes ornamented by large buckles, while not a pair of boots graced the company. The coats and waist-coats were loose and of huge dimensions, with colors as various as the barks of oak, sumach and other trees of our hills and swamps, could make them and their shirts were all made of flax, and like every other part of their dress, were homespun. On their heads was worn a large round top and broad brimmed hat. Their arms were as various as their costume; here an old soldier carried a heavy Queen's arm, which had done service at the Conquest of Canada twenty years previous, while by his side walked a stripling boy with a Spanish fusee not half its weight or calibre, which his grandfather may have taken at the Havana, while not a few had old French pieces, that dated back to the reduction of Louisburg. Instead of a cartridge box, a large powder horn was slung under the arm, and occasionally a bayonet might be seen bristling in the ranks. Some of the swords of the officers had been made by our Province blacksmiths, perhaps from some farming utensil; they looked serviceable, but heavy and uncouth. Such was the appearance of the Continentals to whom a well appointed army was soon to lay down their arms. After a little exercising on the old Common, and performing the then popular exploit of ‘whipping the snake’ they briskly filed off up the road, by the foot of the Kidder Mountain, and through the Spafford Gap, towards Peterboro, to the tune of ‘Over the hills and far away’”
The second is from Christopher Hibbert's Redcoats and Rebels, a comment by British Lt. William Digby, describing of the rebel troops at the Saratoga surrender:
"They stood like soldiers, erect with a military bearing, so still that we were greatly amazed...Not one of them was properly uniformed but each man had on the clothes in which he goes to the field, the church or to the tavern... The officers wore very few uniforms and those they did wear were of their own invention. All colors of cloth are usable, e.g. browncoats with sea green facings, white lining, and silver sword knots; also gray coats with straw facings and yellow buttons were frequently seen...(Some of them) had snow-white wigs with mighty long bushy hair at the sides and thick lambs'-tails behind! There were glistening black abbots' wigs which especially set off red or copper coloured faces! There were white or gray English pastors' wigs whose horse or goat hair was done up in dangerously huge roll standing up in the air. You think such a man has a whole sheep under his hat and hanging down the back of his neck. The respected wearers of these various wigs are in part between their fiftieth and sixtieth year and have at this age followed the drum for the first time."
Spence
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Post by paranger on May 6, 2020 12:21:53 GMT -7
Sounds about right to me. I completely agree with what I take to be your premise: many if not most reenactors and living historians portraying 18th c. North American subjects are more lavishly and uniformly accouttered and equipped than is historically justifiable. Ever notice that in just about every image portraying Continental troops, they are uniformly fitted out in accordance with the 1779 uniform regulation, which was likely not realized in practice until about the time of Yorktown (if at all)? And those were the regulars. As to militia such as described in the preceding passages, fugettaboudit...
In recent years, I have been tweaking my kit "backward," incorporating items of clothing and gear (particularly weapons) that would have been considered 20 to 50 years obsolete at the time.
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Post by ewoaf on May 6, 2020 14:11:16 GMT -7
Think about going to war tomorrow. What do you got? MREs? Canteen? Maybe a mosin nagant and a ruger blackhawk right? Hard hat and armor? Psssht. You'll be wearing flannels and a few scattered Hawaiin shirts.
Now imagine reenactors 200+ years from now reenacting us all. They'll all have crye multicam duds, JPCs full of ceramic plates, camelbacks, and pvs15s atop their opscore skid lids.
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Post by Black Hand on May 6, 2020 14:30:21 GMT -7
Think about going to war tomorrow. What do you got? MREs? Canteen? Maybe a mosin nagant and a ruger blackhawk right? Hard hat and armor? Psssht. You'll be wearing flannels and a few scattered Hawaiin shirts. Now imagine reenactors 200+ years from now reenacting us all. They'll all have crye multicam duds, JPCs full of ceramic plates, camelbacks, and pvs15s atop their opscore skid lids. Gesundheit!
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Post by Keith on May 6, 2020 16:20:47 GMT -7
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Post by artificer on May 6, 2020 21:40:47 GMT -7
"The respected wearers of these various wigs are in part between their fiftieth and sixtieth year and have at this age followed the drum for the first time."
The quotes do not surprise me at all because when War was brought to them, they had to go to War with whatever they had and of course that meant an almost complete lack of military equipment, with the exception of those who had fought in earlier Wars and/or those who had Fathers or Relatives who fought in earlier Wars. The quote above shows that at least some of the men probably would not have gone to War; again, had War not been brought to their doorsteps. Yet this quote does speak to the fact that older men stuck to their wigs in a time when wearing a wig was already going by the wayside with younger generations.
Gus
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Post by brokennock on May 6, 2020 23:18:15 GMT -7
Excellent post, and great quotes, thank you. Not only is the information contained in these passages interesting and useful, your point about reenactors being too uniform is spot on. Some of this may be due to a rigid set of standards held by some people for what is correct clothing and gear for the a given time and place. This makes many things overrepresented. I do plan to use the passage about the number of French arms being carried.
Is the "round top and broad brim hat," 2 different things, or a poorly worded description of a hat with a round top and broad brim? If two things, what is a round top?
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Post by Sicilianhunter on May 7, 2020 7:19:25 GMT -7
A very thought provoking post, appreciate you prodding us to think about our outlook and our kit Spence!! Most reenactors that portray a military persona may be putting too much stock in a modern military mindset of uniformity, at least when portraying American troops. Drifting away from the military persona and into the popular "common man" persona that so many of us look towards, I would have to say that some latitude might be given to what we might modernly consider "unlikely" such a British colonist carrying a French fusil . They had been in the colonies in one form or another, civilian and military versions for quite some time, yet this will usually raise an eyebrow at an event among reenactors. Now, I clipped this from another forum just as an example, drifting back to the military arena, albeit from an earlier period. This was a militia list from Hyde County N.C. 1755:
Officers & NCO's:
William GIBBS, Leiutenant
Robert GIBBS, Ensign
John SPENCER, Serjent
Joseph JENNETT, Serjent
Morris JONES, Serjent
Corprells:
William SPENCER - Carbine
John LOCKHEART - Fowling piece
Thomas GIBBS - Fowling piece
Thomas JONES - Buckanneer
Samuell SELBY, Jur. - Muskitt
Privates:
Samuell SELBY, Snr. - [Blank]
Thos. HARRIS, Snr. - Buckanear
David JONES - Muskitt
Christopher JONES - Fuzee
Thos. HARRIS, Jur. - Muskitt
Edward SPENCER - Fuzee
John MORRIS - Muskeet
William MORRIS - Buckaneer
Stephen HARRIS - Fowling piece
Joseph WILLIAMS - Muskitt
Samuell SMITH - Muskitt
William TURNER - Muskeet
Charles CUTHRELL - Muskeet
Robeart HENRY - Fowling piece
Hugh HENRY - Carbine
Richard BRINN - Fowling piece
John SWINDELL - Muskett
William HARRIS - Fuzee
Matthew CAPPS - Fuzee
John CARRYONE - Muskeet
William SWINDELL - Muskeet
Abraham JONES - Fuzee
Benjeman JACKSON - Muskitt
Thomas SPENCER - Buckaneer
Nathan BAKER - Buckanneer
John BREACE - Fuzee
Thomas SMITH - Muskitt
Joseph CARRYONE - Carbine
Ziddekiah SWINDELL - [Blank]
Josiah SWINDELL - Carbine
Caleb SWINDELL - Fuzee
Joseph WALLS - Fowling piece
William SELBY - Fuzee
Andrew HOPKINS - Muskeet
Hopkins WILLIAMS - Muskeet
[ t ] STUCKBURY - Carbine
John LEATH, Snr. - [Blank]
Step[ t ]en EMMERY - Buckanneer
Nicless COFFEE - Muskett
James HALL - Fowling piece
John HALL - Fuzee
Joshua HALL - [Blank]
John JENNETT - Buckanneer
Wa[ * ] COX - Fuzee
Solomon JONES - Carbine
Buredge SELBY - Fowling peice
John CARROW - Buckanneer
George WILLSON - Fowling piece
Nathan SPENCER - Fowling piece
John SMITH, Jur. - Muskitt
Luke LINTON - Muskitt
John LINTON - Muskitt
David DUNEIN [?] - [Blank]
Henry BREICE - Muskitt
Thomas ADKINS - Muskitt
John SELBY - [Blank]
James DAVISSON - Fowling peice
Buries [?] WATSON - Fowling peice
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Post by paranger on May 7, 2020 7:50:16 GMT -7
That Hyde County list is a great find, S. H. Rarely have I seen even that level of description given in period documents for provincial / militia weapons in F&I, but it is consonant with all the other primary sources that I have found in my focus area (Pennsylvania).
If you are getting strange looks for an older French firelock - military or civilian - then I would say you might either take it as an invitation to do some primary source based education, or seek more discriminating company! They were captured by the thousand at Louisbourg alone in 1745...
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Post by ewoaf on May 7, 2020 10:04:59 GMT -7
Great... now I've gotta build a bucaneer. Been looking for an excuse.
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Post by paranger on May 7, 2020 10:17:07 GMT -7
Great... now I've gotta build a bucaneer. Been looking for an excuse. A capital idea!! I would be willing to bet that some of those "fuzees" were French type Cs and Ds as well...
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Post by hawkeyes on May 8, 2020 8:25:42 GMT -7
Well thought out as usual. This is often the driving force for me personally to continually evaluate my persona and how I conduct my affairs. The world of instant gratification has us accustomed to far more than what was available to our 18th century ancestors.
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Post by artificer on May 8, 2020 10:09:07 GMT -7
Excellent post, and great quotes, thank you. Not only is the information contained in these passages interesting and useful, your point about reenactors being too uniform is spot on. Some of this may be due to a rigid set of standards held by some people for what is correct clothing and gear for the a given time and place. This makes many things overrepresented. I do plan to use the passage about the number of French arms being carried. Is the "round top and broad brim hat," 2 different things, or a poorly worded description of a hat with a round top and broad brim? If two things, what is a round top? Hi Nock, Though we are used to the term "Round Hat" meaning the crown is rounded from the sides to the top and was one of the main preferences for backwoodsmen, the rest of the term just means the brim is not cut down as in a "Round Hat" or Rifleman's Hat. Think of a round top hat blank where three sides lay down and are not "cocked" upwards. So it is indeed a description of just one hat. Gus
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Post by spence on May 8, 2020 11:15:20 GMT -7
Another aspect of life on the frontiers in the 18th century which is very much related to the main theme of this thread is the condition of the people and the stations in regard to cleanliness, etc. They were rugged times, and we rarely if ever see that being reenacted. Some examples of contemporary descriptions of the situation:
William Hickman's account of Harrodsburg, 1776, "We got to Harrod's Town the 1st day of April, and a poor town if was those days, a row or two of smokey cabins, dirty women, men with their britch clouts, greasy hunting shirts, leggings and moccasins." (Lester, The Transylvania Company 11)
About Boonesboro, 1779: It was "A dirty place, Like EVERY OTHER STATION." (Daniel Boone in Faragher, p.205)
"Dirt and filth of the fort, putrified flesh, dead dogs, horses, cows, and hog excrements..." (Revolutionary Frontier, 106)
"Women daily tossed soiled bed ticks from cabins for chickens to peck clean of filth and lice." Long Hunt, Belue 119)
"Harrodstown, a population of 41, was a bustling hive of squalor,- Dirty people living in filthy cabins, bark huts and half face shelters." (The Long Hunt, Belue 110)
'We found a poor distressed, 1/2 naked, 1/2 starved, people ... the people were dirty, filthy, and half starved when I came through.' " Josiah Collins in The Transylvania Colony, Lester 195)
"...dirty, lousey, ragged and half starved." Faragher, D. Boone 131, quoting the Draper collection.
"A man who came out with 2 changes of clothes in the spring would be walking around in rags by the fall..." (Draper 11CC55)
The only time I remember seeing a somewhat realistic depiction of these conditions was a reenactor I saw at Mansker's Station, Goodletsville, Tn. many years ago. A fellow was dressed much as the descriptions above, in several layers of dirty, mismatched, ragged clothes, long scraggly hair and a lot of fake dirt, representing the village rat catcher, complete with a rat in a trap. He collected a crowd.
Spence
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Post by hawkeyes on May 8, 2020 13:42:22 GMT -7
The only time I remember seeing a somewhat realistic depiction of these conditions was a reenactor I saw at Mansker's Station, Goodletsville, Tn. many years ago. A fellow was dressed much as the descriptions above, in several layers of dirty, mismatched, ragged clothes, long scraggly hair and a lot of fake dirt, representing the village rat catcher, complete with a rat in a trap. He collected a crowd. Spence Bill Smith, he always draws near a crowd! Fine fella indeed.
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