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Post by armando on Jul 20, 2020 6:48:43 GMT -7
My goal over the next two weeks is to complete a pair of Eastern style moccasins (first attempt) following Keith's awesome video series.
Question:
- I know Brockennock used some elk hide but I wondered what "weight" I should get?
- how much hide would I need for my big Sasquatch 13 canoe feet (I plan to make them 13.5 and wide to accommodate my Rx insoles).
- likewise, how much wool (?) would I need for the lining?
Hope to order the stuff today. I'd like to have the moccs made in time for an Aug event.
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Post by Sicilianhunter on Jul 20, 2020 7:31:41 GMT -7
My goal over the next two weeks is to complete a pair of Eastern style moccasins (first attempt) following Keith's awesome video series. Question: - I know Brockennock used some elk hide but I wondered what "weight" I should get? - how much hide would I need for my big Sasquatch 13 canoe feet (I plan to make them 13.5 and wide to accommodate my Rx insoles). - likewise, how much wool (?) would I need for the lining? Hope to order the stuff today. I'd like to have the moccs made in time for an Aug event. Armando, I would rather have too much material than too little and since we are always making "something" in this Lifestyle it can't hurt to have some extra laying around. Personally, I would buy a whole hide of either the elk you mentioned or Moose to cut your pattern from. Remember that you will also want to add a second sole to them although that doesn't necessarily have to be from the exact same leather as the uppers. Of course, you will have made a pattern from paper or cardboard first for both the uppers and the soles. In regards to the wool, I would go the same route, buy a whole blanket, cut your pattern out of it and save the rest for other items or projects like a match coat or something to that effect. This blanket is 100% wool and rather affordable as far as wool blankets go. There are several other grades that are cheaper (the 90% version is $20 cheaper). www.amazon.com/EKTOS-Washable-Survival-Emergency-Preparedness/dp/B074JF8HHD/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=ektos+wool+blanket&qid=1595255309&sr=8-3Good luck and post some pics along the way!! |
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Post by brokennock on Jul 20, 2020 8:26:32 GMT -7
My goal over the next two weeks is to complete a pair of Eastern style moccasins (first attempt) following Keith's awesome video series. Question: - I know Brockennock used some elk hide but I wondered what "weight" I should get? - how much hide would I need for my big Sasquatch 13 canoe feet (I plan to make them 13.5 and wide to accommodate my Rx insoles). - likewise, how much wool (?) would I need for the lining? Hope to order the stuff today. I'd like to have the moccs made in time for an Aug event. I used the split bison hides that have been on sale at Crazy Crow for a while now. www.crazycrow.com/buffalo-leatherI bought the "smoked" and each piece had at least enough for a pair of mocs with some decent extra left for other projects. Some pieces had enough for a third moccasin, but not another entire pair. I would use this leather for your 1st few pairs. It results in a very serviceable moccasin, and is cheap enough to screw up with. Once you get the pattern and technique down, translate it to a better and more expensive leather. I will eventually switch to moose or a better quality bison hide, something where the hair side is smoother than this. |
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Post by armando on Jul 20, 2020 13:06:08 GMT -7
Thanks Nock!
What template or pattern did you use?
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Post by brokennock on Jul 20, 2020 16:37:23 GMT -7
Thanks Nock! What template or pattern did you use? The same one used in one of the videos u posted in the thread asking about alternatives to leather. I forget which one, but I say which it was in the reply. Basically foot outline with a center line through it length wise. Two finger thicknesses ahead of toes marked at center, 1 finger thickness marked on center behind heel, measure foot around highest part of arch with string and when string is played across center line (center of string crossing center line of patter at the place you measured) where the ends lay gives the width. Connect width points to toe point in an arc, extend a straight line from point behind heel in both directions 90 degrees to center until you can bring the width marks straight back to meet it. That is your pattern, without flaps. |
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Post by Black Hand on Jul 21, 2020 5:14:53 GMT -7
You need to be aware of the direction of stretch for the leather. If you don't account for this, your moccasins will stretch in odd ways and not fit properly.
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Post by armando on Jul 21, 2020 5:39:00 GMT -7
This is something I may not have thought of Black Hand....which way should it be oriented?
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Post by Black Hand on Jul 21, 2020 10:48:12 GMT -7
Stretch goes around the animal and pieces should be cut parallel to the spine or with the stretch going across rather than front to back. At least, this is my recollection.
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