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Post by armando on Dec 25, 2020 14:30:34 GMT -7
My in-laws bought me a new canteen for Christmas. It seems to have come “in the white” in a way as it looks like I need to line the inside myself and attach the spigot. Any suggestions on best way to do the beeswax lining? Previously I just purchased some beeswax from Amazon, melted it, and then poured it into the canteen and rolled it around. Any suggestions on the best glue to use to attach the spigot (if it can be called that).  |
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Post by ewoaf on Dec 25, 2020 15:29:19 GMT -7
Sampson wooden canteens are already wax sealed and ready to use. If it's not, send it back.
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Post by armando on Dec 25, 2020 16:28:25 GMT -7
Sampson wooden canteens are already wax sealed and ready to use. If it's not, send it back. Thank you sir. I couldn’t tell from looking inside with my flashlight. What about attaching the wooden piece to the opening? Should I just use triple strength wood glue? |
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Post by ewoaf on Dec 25, 2020 17:30:08 GMT -7
You could. I'd use a non water soluble glue.
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Post by artificer on Dec 25, 2020 19:12:19 GMT -7
Any suggestions on the best glue to use to attach the spigot (if it can be called that). Nice Christmas Gift!! OK, Just have to ask. Is that the Stopper already stuck in the spout, as shown in the pic above? If so, I might suggest you whittle the end of the plug to shorten it and so there are flats on both sides and maybe tapered flats, just to make it easier to twist it and get it out each time you use it. Gus |
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Post by Keith on Dec 29, 2020 0:05:44 GMT -7
Personally I would not use any glue, I would simply let the wood expand when wet. I wrote to a heap of manufacturers when I was doing a review on a wooden kit water bottle, & none of them would commit themselves to saying their glue was food safe. In the end I put the kit together & dumped it in the water butt to soak for a few days, & it worked just fine.
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Post by ewoaf on Dec 29, 2020 6:19:09 GMT -7
I've had poor results with glue on these cheap foreign made repros. Some are too reliant on glue and leak when it dissolves out then dry with huge gaps that never expand enough to seal again.
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Post by hawkeyes on Dec 29, 2020 8:29:14 GMT -7
I've had poor results with glue on these cheap foreign made repros. Some are too reliant on glue and leak when it dissolves out then dry with huge gaps that never expand enough to seal again. Definitely agree. Wood quality is a HUGE factor with these wooden water vessels. I personally wouldn't use glue as Keith already mentioned. |
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Post by hawkeyes on Dec 29, 2020 8:30:57 GMT -7
If anything I'd use pitch. Beeswax will only crack as the vessel expands and contracts.
Yet, I'm on board with Keith. It'll naturally seal itself if the gaps are acceptable to do so once saturated with water.
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Post by armando on Dec 29, 2020 10:52:36 GMT -7
Personally I would not use any glue, I would simply let the wood expand when wet. I wrote to a heap of manufacturers when I was doing a review on a wooden kit water bottle, & none of them would commit themselves to saying their glue was food safe. In the end I put the kit together & dumped it in the water butt to soak for a few days, & it worked just fine. Keith. But there is no way to attach the spigot that holds the stopper without glue. |
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Post by hawkeyes on Dec 30, 2020 7:03:41 GMT -7
Personally I would not use any glue, I would simply let the wood expand when wet. I wrote to a heap of manufacturers when I was doing a review on a wooden kit water bottle, & none of them would commit themselves to saying their glue was food safe. In the end I put the kit together & dumped it in the water butt to soak for a few days, & it worked just fine. Keith. But there is no way to attach the spigot that holds the stopper without glue. Already mentioned, pitch. You can easily make your own pitch for lining and sealing or they do sell it. My advice would be to gather and make it, another skill added to the bag. Like beeswax though it will become brittle over time, just comes with the territory. |
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Post by Keith on Dec 30, 2020 22:38:11 GMT -7
Not sure what this is, something didn't post right. The mind boggles! Keith. |
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Post by Keith on Dec 30, 2020 22:48:13 GMT -7
"But there is no way to attach the spigot that holds the stopper without glue". The spigot should also swell & tighten in the water bottle. If not, try wrapping in a piece of cordage & screwing/pushing it in dry & then soak it. Leave it in water for a few days.  This shows three of my old water bottles that I no longer use. None of the spigots are glued, they are just pushed into the bottle. They come loos when dried out, but remain tight so long as they are being used. Keith. |
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Post by armando on Jan 2, 2021 12:35:01 GMT -7
"But there is no way to attach the spigot that holds the stopper without glue". The spigot should also swell & tighten in the water bottle. If not, try wrapping in a piece of cordage & screwing/pushing it in dry & then soak it. Leave it in water for a few days. This shows three of my old water bottles that I no longer use. None of the spigots are glued, they are just pushed into the bottle. They come loos when dried out, but remain tight so long as they are being used. Keith. I don’t know if this will swell enough to hold this in place  |
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Post by hawkeyes on Jan 3, 2021 4:36:50 GMT -7
Ahah! I see... That definitely will require glue. I'd certainly recommend titebond III. Apply a thin bead to both surfaces and clamp that in place. Wipe the glue that oozes with a wet rag.
Titebond II would work and I use it regularly and buy it in gallon jugs. However for water immersion III would be my choice. That porous wood may soak a good amount up as well. Apply a thing bead and wait a few minutes, then see if another thin application is needed.
Or... you could wrap that section with leather to get a snug fit then apply some hot wax/ pitch to the seam. Once it swells it'll seal. The glue repair indeed will be stronger than the wood itself, however the decision is yours!
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