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Post by brokennock on Nov 21, 2021 22:44:39 GMT -7
Apparently a "mangoe" is, or can be something other than the fruit (yes I am aware there are 100s of varieties of mangoes) many of us are aware of.
I am reading, "The First American Cookbook, a facsimile of American Cookery by Amelia Simmons"
While I highly recommend it, and there is a lot to be learned just in the beginning of the book talking of the original author's life and times, some of the terminology is baffling. Not to mention the annoying struggle of the, common to the time, use of the letter f/F for the letter S.
Anyway, several times she refers to mangoes or "making mangoes," and it is clear she is referring to something made in one's kitchen, not the fruit picked from a tree.
This recipe is an example,
"To pickle or make Mangoes of Melons. Take green melons, as many as you pleafe, and make a brine ftrong enough to bear an egg; then pour it boiling hot on the melons, keeping them down under the brine; let them ftand five or fix days; then take them out, flit them down on one fide, take out all the feeds, fcrape them well in the infide, and wafh them clean with cold water; then take a clove of a garlick, a little ginger and nutmeg fliced, and a little whole pepper; put all thefe propoidonably into the melons, filling them up with muftard-feeds; then lay them in an earthern pot with the flit upwards, and take one part of muflard and two parts of vinegar, enough to cover them, pouring it upon them fcalding hot, and keep them clofe flopped."
Okay? What the heck is this manufacturered "mangoe" she is talking about? Do we know it as something else?
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Post by spence on Nov 22, 2021 13:18:54 GMT -7
I suspected she was talking about using muskmelons to make her "mangoes", and that is in fact the case. In another place in the book she says."Muskmelons, are various, the rough skinned is best to eat; the short, round, fair skinn'd, is best for Mangoes." Why they called pickled muskmelons mangoes I have no idea. As a totally irrelevant aside, when I was a boy in rural Kentucky the common name for sweet green bell peppers was "mango peppers", don't ask me why. Spence N.B. In mid-Victorian era, there was developed a hybrid fruit called the 'mango melon'. www.rareseeds.com/store/vegetables/garden-berries/mango-melon-vine-peach
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Post by brokennock on Nov 22, 2021 19:17:17 GMT -7
I suspected she was talking about using muskmelons to make her "mangoes", and that is in fact the case. In another place in the book she says."Muskmelons, are various, the rough skinned is best to eat; the short, round, fair skinn'd, is best for Mangoes." Why they called pickled muskmelons mangoes I have no idea. As a totally irrelevant aside, when I was a boy in rural Kentucky the common name for sweet green bell peppers was "mango peppers", don't ask me why. Spence N.B. In mid-Victorian era, there was developed a hybrid fruit called the 'mango melon'. www.rareseeds.com/store/vegetables/garden-berries/mango-melon-vine-peachYeah,,,, more humble pie for me. If I'd just kept reading I would have come to the glofsary, "mango, a pickled green melon stuffed with various condiments" But, it is a very good book. I find the defcription of the original author's life and of her reafoning for creating her book very interefting and informative. I do ftruggle with fome of her terminology and of courfe the whole f/s thing.
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Post by spence on Nov 22, 2021 21:53:09 GMT -7
Yes, I found her personal info and her philosophy at the beginning very interesting. I like trying 18th-century recipes, and I've tried a few from her book. Here's a link to the book online, searchable. www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/12815/pg12815.htmlCoincidentally, Jon Townsend's vlog today was pumpkin pie from her book. It worked well. www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLbfpGYf89YHang in there with the long S. it will get to be small bother. Spence
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Post by brokennock on Nov 23, 2021 2:16:11 GMT -7
In my head as I read the long S I hear Sylvester the cat. Lol. But, thank you for the encouragement.
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