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Post by Black Hand on Feb 21, 2022 5:30:26 GMT -7
If SSS isn't considered a problem of hunter ethics then I admit I don't understand what hunter ethics is, and have no business in this conversation. Spence SSS is a problem for ethical hunters as it gives the rest of us a bad name and more ammunition for those who are trying to take hunting from us. As such - it should not be part of the ethical hunter's lexicon but is still a problem to be addressed/policed by the ethical hunter. |
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Post by Joe on Feb 21, 2022 13:55:10 GMT -7
SSS is a problem for ethical hunters as it gives the rest of us a bad name and more ammunition for those who are trying to take hunting from us. As such - it should not be part of the ethical hunter's lexicon but is still a problem to be addressed/policed by the ethical hunter. I don't think a true proponent of SSS would violate the third S by talking about it. Especially on a public forum. We live in an age where it seems, people are "triggered" by design. |
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Post by Black Hand on Feb 21, 2022 14:29:45 GMT -7
People (in general) are utterly incapable of shutting-up. How many morons are hoisted on their own petard by filming their stupidity and posting it to social media....?
As an example of stupid behavior on a public forum - someone once challenged me to a duel because I wouldn't accept the BS they were vomiting. This wasn't one of those anonymous keyboard warriors behaving like an idiot, rather someone I knew.
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Post by Joe on Feb 21, 2022 14:58:57 GMT -7
People (in general) are utterly incapable of shutting-up. How many morons are hoisted on their own petard by filming their stupidity and posting it to social media....? As an example of stupid behavior on a public forum - someone once challenged me to a duel because I wouldn't accept the BS they were vomiting. This wasn't one of those anonymous keyboard warriors behaving like an idiot, rather someone I knew. Well, you're right about that. Curious, what kind of duel, pistols, swords, banjoes ?  |
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Post by Black Hand on Feb 21, 2022 15:14:01 GMT -7
If I remember correctly, the choice of weapon was mine. That said, it doesn't help to encourage unhinged people so I ignored him.
He and his nutball cronies are a very big part of why discussions on religion and anti-science are not permitted on this site.
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Post by brokennock on Feb 22, 2022 8:18:49 GMT -7
As I said, the enforcement officers I've dealt with regarding Fish and Game have been great. Those above them, not so much. Generally clueless.
A quote from a post on that other forum,
"Alabama is touting the opening of Primitive season tomorrow. Their ad displays a inline rifle with a scope. Unfortunately, many Wildlife regulators would not know the difference nor would the hunters. We might need a few paid lobbyists but the manufacturers of inlines would outbid us. Tooooo late. Dale"
As is all too often the case, those that are making the rules, regulations, and laws,,,, know nothing about what they are trying to regulate.
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Post by Joe on Feb 22, 2022 10:12:56 GMT -7
As I said, the enforcement officers I've dealt with regarding Fish and Game have been great. Those above them, not so much. Generally clueless. A quote from a post on that other forum, "Alabama is touting the opening of Primitive season tomorrow. Their ad displays a inline rifle with a scope. Unfortunately, many Wildlife regulators would not know the difference nor would the hunters. We might need a few paid lobbyists but the manufacturers of inlines would outbid us. Tooooo late. Dale" As is all too often the case, those that are making the rules, regulations, and laws,,,, know nothing about what they are trying to regulate. It's actually worse than you might imagine. Federal, Hodgdon and Traditions/Bergara have teamed up to produce the Firestick cartridge muzzleloader. and they are lobbying states heavily to allow it's use in muzzleloader seasons. It's literally the anti-muzzleloader. IMO there is something very wrong with the world today. |
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Post by Black Hand on Feb 22, 2022 14:33:09 GMT -7
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Post by Keith on Feb 22, 2022 20:05:13 GMT -7
I am going to add my two penneth here because I have been hunting & trapping since I was a kid. I certainly was not an ethical hunter as a kid, but I learnt to be ethical as a kid. My idea of being an ethical hunter is: No trophy hunting. No sport hunting. No hunting of any native species unless I have a very real need. I trap & shoot feral animals in my forest to protect native species. I try to make a quick & humane kill when I have to kill. I will dispatch any wounded or injured animal that I find if it is past helping.
I think that about covers it for me.
Regards, Keith.
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Post by Joe on Feb 22, 2022 20:36:02 GMT -7
No hunting of any native species unless I have a very real need Some folks here in the USA might not understand that. They might not know the trouble Australia has had with the introduction of non-native species and the ecological damage they have done, Australia is especially susceptible to such things, what with being an isolated continent for millions of years. Good ethics not only means doing the right thing, but also righting our wrongs. |
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Post by brokennock on Feb 22, 2022 20:57:48 GMT -7
No hunting of any native species unless I have a very real need Some folks here in the USA might not understand that. They might not know the trouble Australia has had with the introduction of non-native species and the ecological damage they have done, Australia is especially susceptible to such things, what with being an isolated continent for millions of years. Good ethics not only means doing the right thing, but also righting our wrongs. They may not understand it, yet,,,, but they will. Many people in some states, Florida being a good example,, are learning this lesson already, and learning it rapidly. |
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Post by Joe on Feb 22, 2022 21:41:00 GMT -7
Some folks here in the USA might not understand that. They might not know the trouble Australia has had with the introduction of non-native species and the ecological damage they have done, Australia is especially susceptible to such things, what with being an isolated continent for millions of years. Good ethics not only means doing the right thing, but also righting our wrongs. They may not understand it, yet,,,, but they will. Many people in some states, Florida being a good example,, are learning this lesson already, and learning it rapidly. Very true. There are many places throughout the world that have suffered from the introduction of non-native species. You make a good point, we shouldn't consider ourselves immune. Asian carp would be another recent example. |
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Post by Black Hand on Feb 23, 2022 10:37:10 GMT -7
Maybe we can re-brand SSS for ethical hunters as Shoot, Shovel (as into the mouth) and Smile/Savo(u)r...  |
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Post by brokennock on Feb 23, 2022 11:17:37 GMT -7
Maybe we can re-brand SSS for ethical hunters as Shoot, Shovel (as into the mouth) and Smile/Savo(u)r... Shoot, savor, and smile |
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Post by Black Hand on Feb 23, 2022 11:52:11 GMT -7
Maybe we can re-brand SSS for ethical hunters as Shoot, Shovel (as into the mouth) and Smile/Savo(u)r... Shoot, savor, and smile I LIKE IT!!! |
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