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Post by waarp8nt on Feb 22, 2019 17:20:02 GMT -7
I use the pattern in Ms. Gilgun's book. I get the sizing/dimensions from an existing shirt I made that fits me well and adjust up a little for the over-shirt. I received the book Tidings from the 18th Century today. Thank you for the recommendation! I like that it shows some different sewing techniques and has patterns. I believe it will suit me well I've worn both cotton & linen next to the body with no problems. I believe "conventional wisdom" says linen is cooler in the heat and warmer in the cold - considering I usually wear 2 shirts (and a waistcoat) at the same time even on a hot day (with the rare exception), you might want to test for yourself. I am one of those people cursed with little insulation and a poor ability to retain heat but a high tolerance for hot weather. I understand. I prefer cooler weather and do not always do well in high heat and high humidity. Keith, I'm glad your back. I have enjoyed watching many of your video's and subscribed to your channel!
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Post by straekat on Feb 22, 2019 19:03:42 GMT -7
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Post by straekat on Feb 22, 2019 19:14:38 GMT -7
I'm somewhat curious, when it comes to putting together a frock or hunting shirt, are you gentlemen making your own patterns, purchasing patterns or are just winging it off of shirts currently in your possession? I'm somewhat new to sewing, but have pieced together quilts squares on a singer treadle machine in my youth. I have never really spent much time sewing by hand other than a button or an occasional leather item repair. Do you prefer Linen or other materials for next to the body? I use the pattern in Ms. Gilgun's book. I get the sizing/dimensions from an existing shirt I made that fits me well and adjust up a little for the over-shirt. I've worn both cotton & linen next to the body with no problems. I believe "conventional wisdom" says linen is cooler in the heat and warmer in the cold - considering I usually wear 2 shirts (and a waistcoat) at the same time even on a hot day (with the rare exception), you might want to test for yourself. I am one of those people cursed with little insulation and a poor ability to retain heat but a high tolerance for hot weather. Wool has very good thermal properties. When wet, it will still keep you relatively warm while cotton won't. Wet linen isn't that warm when wet, but IMO, feels better against the skin when wet than cotton does. Wool and linen breath during the summer, and wick moisture away from the skin and will cool you down through evapo-transpiration. Read labels of store bought yardage, and stay away from any and all synthetics. If you're near a fire, wool, linen and cotton will burn but not stick to your skin the way anything with synthetics does. W., before spend some time learning to sew before trying to make period breeches. I've looked closely at the pattern in Gilgun's book, and there's a flaw in the pattern, however her description of the process is relatively good compared to others I've read and looked at. Hold off on using hers, and there are others I can post as pdf or jpg files that can be used to make the pattern. BH....I know what you mean about no body insulation and a high tolerance to heat. I'm 6'2 and about 175, hate winter and don't mind high temperatures as longs as the humidity is under 40%.
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Post by straekat on Feb 22, 2019 19:16:24 GMT -7
] Keith, I'm glad your back. I have enjoyed watching many of your video's and subscribed to your channel! [/b] [/quote] Same here. Good to see you are back, and hopefully the recovery is going well or over!
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Post by waarp8nt on Mar 7, 2019 17:46:39 GMT -7
After a little bit of reading and a some good advise from this forum. This is what I am currently thinking; Linen shirt, wool waistcoat and hemp frock. Purchase Linen from Jo-Ann, use the wool blanket in my other post to make a waistcoat, left over wool blanket for leggings and purchase heavy hemp canvas for a frock. I like the idea of Hemp being durable as we have plenty of Multiflora rose bushes, Honey & Black Locus trees in our area.
I would use my current trousers and brogans to get started. However, I plan on making breeches, Capote and figuring out a more appropriate footwear. I may also make leggings from leather as we have plenty of things that stick to our clothing in this area and wool leggings may not be the best for woods walks.
I think it would be great to eventually have two sets of clothes. One for 1760's and one for 1820-1840's, but that will take some time and planning.
Thank you all for your advise and post throughout the forum!
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Post by Keith on Mar 7, 2019 18:07:30 GMT -7
I use the pattern in Ms. Gilgun's book. I get the sizing/dimensions from an existing shirt I made that fits me well and adjust up a little for the over-shirt. I received the book Tidings from the 18th Century today. Thank you for the recommendation! I like that it shows some different sewing techniques and has patterns. I believe it will suit me well I've worn both cotton & linen next to the body with no problems. I believe "conventional wisdom" says linen is cooler in the heat and warmer in the cold - considering I usually wear 2 shirts (and a waistcoat) at the same time even on a hot day (with the rare exception), you might want to test for yourself. I am one of those people cursed with little insulation and a poor ability to retain heat but a high tolerance for hot weather. I understand. I prefer cooler weather and do not always do well in high heat and high humidity. Keith, I'm glad your back. I have enjoyed watching many of your video's and subscribed to your channel!
Much appreciated waarp8nt. Regards, Keith.
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Post by Keith on Mar 7, 2019 18:12:02 GMT -7
[/b] [/quote] Same here. Good to see you are back, and hopefully the recovery is going well or over![/quote] Thanks mate, seems to be taking longer this time round, but then I am older now so I suppose that is par for the course! Regards, Keith.
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Post by Black Hand on Mar 7, 2019 18:27:07 GMT -7
Getting older isn't for sissies! Hope the recovery is smooth. I'm still dealing with a shoulder injury from July which I suspect will mean no more stickbow archery...ever.
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Post by Keith on Mar 7, 2019 23:28:10 GMT -7
Getting older isn't for sissies! Hope the recovery is smooth. I'm still dealing with a shoulder injury from July which I suspect will mean no more stickbow archery...ever. Well of course in the 18th century people got older faster! Even more so for woodsrunners out in all weathers. Some years ago I made myself a crutch, the pain was bad in my right hip & it was prone to making me stumble & fall. I could throw the leg up on a fallen tree & lean into it in the early stages to snap the hip back in place, but eventually even this became problematic. I did not do this to prove anything, it is just what I needed to do to keep roaming the woods which is a large part of my life living in a forest. Anyway, eventually I succumbed to common sense & had a hip replacement, & now I have had a second hip replacement. I don't expect to be able to run the woods as I used to, but I will do the best I can with what I have & enjoy doing it! I sit here looking out at the forest around me & long to be out there, it will be a while yet before I can manage the uncertain ground of the woods, but I will get there. My thanks to everyone for your well wishes, I am sure we all feel the same about running the woods. Regards, Keith.
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Post by straekat on Mar 9, 2019 14:25:25 GMT -7
Getting older isn't for sissies! Hope the recovery is smooth. I'm still dealing with a shoulder injury from July which I suspect will mean no more stickbow archery...ever. The injury had to be painful and serious for the effects to be lasting this long. Was there osteological damage and/or softer tissues involved also?
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Post by straekat on Mar 9, 2019 14:40:09 GMT -7
Getting older isn't for sissies! Hope the recovery is smooth. I'm still dealing with a shoulder injury from July which I suspect will mean no more stickbow archery...ever. Well of course in the 18th century people got older faster! Even more so for woodsrunners out in all weathers. Some years ago I made myself a crutch, the pain was bad in my right hip & it was prone to making me stumble & fall. I could throw the leg up on a fallen tree & lean into it in the early stages to snap the hip back in place, but eventually even this became problematic. I did not do this to prove anything, it is just what I needed to do to keep roaming the woods which is a large part of my life living in a forest. Anyway, eventually I succumbed to common sense & had a hip replacement, & now I have had a second hip replacement. I don't expect to be able to run the woods as I used to, but I will do the best I can with what I have & enjoy doing it! I sit here looking out at the forest around me & long to be out there, it will be a while yet before I can manage the uncertain ground of the woods, but I will get there. My thanks to everyone for your well wishes, I am sure we all feel the same about running the woods. Regards, Keith. OUCH!!!! Keeping a positive attitude is important. There was a famous British hiker/walker (Colin Fletcher) that settled in the US after WWII. He hiked the Grand Canyon, the Pacific Coast Trail and numerous location throughout the US and locations outside the country. He spent most of his life, hiking/walking/camping and when he was close to 80, was hit by a car and had both hips broken. Six months later, he was healed enough that he was walking again, although not as long or as far as he'd been going before that. Doctors who treated him said his physical condition developed over a lifetime and his frame of mind significantly contributed to his initial survival and then recovery. How long it takes isn't that important compared to being out and about on your own steam, and enjoying the outdoors.
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Post by Keith on Mar 9, 2019 14:53:26 GMT -7
Well of course in the 18th century people got older faster! Even more so for woodsrunners out in all weathers. Some years ago I made myself a crutch, the pain was bad in my right hip & it was prone to making me stumble & fall. I could throw the leg up on a fallen tree & lean into it in the early stages to snap the hip back in place, but eventually even this became problematic. I did not do this to prove anything, it is just what I needed to do to keep roaming the woods which is a large part of my life living in a forest. Anyway, eventually I succumbed to common sense & had a hip replacement, & now I have had a second hip replacement. I don't expect to be able to run the woods as I used to, but I will do the best I can with what I have & enjoy doing it! I sit here looking out at the forest around me & long to be out there, it will be a while yet before I can manage the uncertain ground of the woods, but I will get there. My thanks to everyone for your well wishes, I am sure we all feel the same about running the woods. Regards, Keith. OUCH!!!! Keeping a positive attitude is important. There was a famous British hiker/walker (Colin Fletcher) that settled in the US after WWII. He hiked the Grand Canyon, the Pacific Coast Trail and numerous location throughout the US and locations outside the country. He spent most of his life, hiking/walking/camping and when he was close to 80, was hit by a car and had both hips broken. Six months later, he was healed enough that he was walking again, although not as long or as far as he'd been going before that. Doctors who treated him said his physical condition developed over a lifetime and his frame of mind significantly contributed to his initial survival and then recovery. How long it takes isn't that important compared to being out and about on your own steam, and enjoying the outdoors.
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Post by Keith on Mar 9, 2019 14:56:47 GMT -7
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Post by Black Hand on Mar 9, 2019 15:03:34 GMT -7
Getting older isn't for sissies! Hope the recovery is smooth. I'm still dealing with a shoulder injury from July which I suspect will mean no more stickbow archery...ever. The injury had to be painful and serious for the effects to be lasting this long. Was there osteological damage and/or softer tissues involved also? I suspect I tore a ligament or injured the rotator cuff. It was very uncomfortable for months and now gives me a twinge every so often. I had disassembled, planed/scraped every part of the wood porch, Water-sealed and reassembled - something gave way while scraping the trim on the lady-friend's house. Using a sledge to pound tent pegs doesn't bother me but scrambling eggs does...
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Post by waarp8nt on Mar 12, 2019 18:22:26 GMT -7
Gents,
I'm truly sorry to hear your having medical issues! I would not wish such issues on a snake.
I once went to the Doctor and she asked "why are you here? you never come to see me!". I said "Doc, the hair keeps falling off my head and landing on my back and bottom". She laughed a little and reminded me that "I would not like the alternative either!".
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