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Post by spence on May 19, 2022 7:16:02 GMT -7
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Post by RyanAK on May 19, 2022 7:28:21 GMT -7
That guy is great. I hadn’t seen that video though. Off to watch. Thanks, Spence!
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Post by RyanAK on May 20, 2022 6:55:15 GMT -7
This 162-year-old house seems to collect interesting items: The larger may make for a good leather covered vessel. Not hand blown, and not very large. Hmmm…
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Post by paranger on May 20, 2022 7:00:36 GMT -7
This 162-year-old house seems to collect interesting items: View AttachmentThe larger may make for a good leather covered vessel. Not hand blown, and not very large. Hmmm… View AttachmentThe larger one seems like a plausible period shape - sort of a hybrid between an onion and mallet bottle. If you leather covered it so the clear glass is hidden, that might work well.
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Post by RyanAK on May 20, 2022 7:41:54 GMT -7
This 162-year-old house seems to collect interesting items: <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> The larger may make for a good leather covered vessel. Not hand blown, and not very large. Hmmm… <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> The larger one seems like a plausible period shape - sort of a hybrid between an onion and mallet bottle. If you leather covered it so the clear glass is hidden, that might work well. Doh! 😖 Clear glass! I was so pleased with my find and a generally good shape that I overlooked the clear glass! 🤦
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Post by Black Hand on May 20, 2022 10:33:25 GMT -7
If I had a choice between glass and gourd, gourd would be the clear winner. Quick and easy vs. slow and hard(er)...
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Post by artificer on May 20, 2022 11:50:34 GMT -7
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Post by RyanAK on May 20, 2022 14:00:43 GMT -7
Great links and info, Gus. Hand, I’ll be doing a gourd too, eventually. It’s likely the most practical. But with glass covered in leather I could carry hot coffee. PC or not, that can be a vital part of my mornings in the woods.
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Post by Black Hand on May 20, 2022 14:15:46 GMT -7
A man does not carry hot coffee into the woods... He chews whole beans and washes them down with water. All kidding aside, carry ground coffee and brew fresh over a fire. Alternately, carry green beans to make fresh-roasted coffee. We do both...
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Post by brokennock on May 20, 2022 17:12:05 GMT -7
That guy is great. I hadn’t seen that video though. Off to watch. Thanks, Spence! Yeah, I don't know whatever became of Steve. Good guy. Just kind of disappeared.
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Post by artificer on May 20, 2022 18:36:28 GMT -7
Great links and info, Gus. Hand, I’ll be doing a gourd too, eventually. It’s likely the most practical. But with glass covered in leather I could carry hot coffee. PC or not, that can be a vital part of my mornings in the woods. OK, I FULLY understand being able to have hot coffee in the morning and for me, coffee throughout the day whether hot or room/outdoor temperature. However, do you remember the cheap glass lined coffee thermos's from years ago? I still remember the sickening sound of shattering glass when one dropped them onto the ground. I think I had three that did that to me. Even with a leather cover around your period bottle, you risk the period equivalent of the same thing happening. OK, so there was no such thing as a period Stanley Coffee Thermos, so what to use? www.ebay.com/itm/334441961201?hash=item4dde4b56f1:g:2WsAAOSwk9ligQIWThere used to be a medium and large size of these lidded mugs, I got the large size on ebay in the late 90's and WOW was it great to keep coffee as hot for as long as possible or to have other drinks in it with or without "hail stones" to keep them cool. Gus
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Post by RyanAK on May 20, 2022 19:04:09 GMT -7
Great links and info, Gus. Hand, I’ll be doing a gourd too, eventually. It’s likely the most practical. But with glass covered in leather I could carry hot coffee. PC or not, that can be a vital part of my mornings in the woods. OK, I FULLY understand being able to have hot coffee in the morning and for me, coffee throughout the day whether hot or room/outdoor temperature. However, do you remember the cheap glass lined coffee thermos's from years ago? I still remember the sickening sound of shattering glass when one dropped them onto the ground. I think I had three that did that to me. Even with a leather cover around your period bottle, you risk the period equivalent of the same thing happening. OK, so there was no such thing as a period Stanley Coffee Thermos, so what to use? www.ebay.com/itm/334441961201?hash=item4dde4b56f1:g:2WsAAOSwk9ligQIWThere used to be a medium and large size of these lidded mugs, I got the large size on ebay in the late 90's and WOW was it great to keep coffee as hot for as long as possible or to have other drinks in it with or without "hail stones" to keep them cool. Gus 😂 Gus, that was a complete surprise when I clicked through! Wonderful! And somehow very appropriate for a Pennsylvania German-Swiss persona! I’ve smashed a Stanley or two in my day. My 21st century persona carries an all stainless insulated bottle now. Actually.., two of them. I’m a coffee guy. I drink gallons. In non-hunting scenarios, there’s nothing I enjoy more than building a fire to boil water for a pour-over. Mid-morning along Penns Creek when the morning hatch has concluded and the thermos is empty rejuvenates the soul… and a low blood-caffeine level. But when hunting out of the cabin with family, a fire isn’t practical. 21st century kit, no big deal. Two thermos bottles in my pack. But a way to convey wonderful coffee when it’s 12* and snowing in an HC/PC manner during flintlock or other period hunts would be a dream. Leather, wood and gourd don’t seem right for hot beverages. And neither does a sheep’s bladder or sow’s teat, Spence! 😜
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Post by spence on May 20, 2022 19:49:51 GMT -7
RyanAK said, "And neither does a sheep’s bladder or sow’s teat, Spence!" I can see you need an attitude adjustment. Just as important to a true impression as the clothing and guns is the mindset of the day. That's the toughest one to pull off, and does call for some sacrifices. Some which are painful. Doddridge, Joseph; _Notes on the Settlement and Indian Wars of the Western parts of Virginia and Pennsylvania, from 1763 to 1783, Inclusive_ "Tea and coffee were only slops, which in the adage of the day 'did not stick by the ribs.' The idea was they were designed only for people of quality who do not labor, or the sick. A genuine backwoodsman would have thought himself disgraced by showing a fondness for these slops. Indeed, many of them have, to this day, very little respect for them." Think of how much less complicated your impression would be by simply skipping the coffee. Occam's razor. Spence
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Post by artificer on May 21, 2022 4:43:59 GMT -7
OK, I FULLY understand being able to have hot coffee in the morning and for me, coffee throughout the day whether hot or room/outdoor temperature. However, do you remember the cheap glass lined coffee thermos's from years ago? I still remember the sickening sound of shattering glass when one dropped them onto the ground. I think I had three that did that to me. Even with a leather cover around your period bottle, you risk the period equivalent of the same thing happening. OK, so there was no such thing as a period Stanley Coffee Thermos, so what to use? www.ebay.com/itm/334441961201?hash=item4dde4b56f1:g:2WsAAOSwk9ligQIWThere used to be a medium and large size of these lidded mugs, I got the large size on ebay in the late 90's and WOW was it great to keep coffee as hot for as long as possible or to have other drinks in it with or without "hail stones" to keep them cool. Gus 😂 Gus, that was a complete surprise when I clicked through! Wonderful! And somehow very appropriate for a Pennsylvania German-Swiss persona! I’ve smashed a Stanley or two in my day. My 21st century persona carries an all stainless insulated bottle now. Actually.., two of them. I’m a coffee guy. I drink gallons. In non-hunting scenarios, there’s nothing I enjoy more than building a fire to boil water for a pour-over. Mid-morning along Penns Creek when the morning hatch has concluded and the thermos is empty rejuvenates the soul… and a low blood-caffeine level. But when hunting out of the cabin with family, a fire isn’t practical. 21st century kit, no big deal. Two thermos bottles in my pack. But a way to convey wonderful coffee when it’s 12* and snowing in an HC/PC manner during flintlock or other period hunts would be a dream. Leather, wood and gourd don’t seem right for hot beverages. And neither does a sheep’s bladder or sow’s teat, Spence! 😜 FWIW, period "lipped" mugs were common in Great Britain and France in this period as well, so it wasn't just a Germanic thing. Besides, every civilized person in the period KNEW that sheep bladders were only properly used to prepare HAGGIS. Gus
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Post by RyanAK on May 21, 2022 7:04:23 GMT -7
I’m currently at my mother-in-law’s house, 250 miles from home, in a well-to-do neighborhood, in Connecticut, where the lawn care machinery start at 6:00. This will be a day where I’ll need coffee to fortify myself.
I pour my morning cup. Then… read about ‘slops’.
Good grief! 😜
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